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gianluigi
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11th Apr 06 at 19:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Berlusconi lost He's demanding a recount, due to irregularities with the over seas voters, (i.e. me )

Looks like Milan won't be winning anything anymore

[Edited on 12-04-2006 by gianluigi]
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11th Apr 06 at 19:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
He's a fcuking nazi anyway!

BTW have you done/will you do your Italian national army service? Or will you claim to be a UK citizen like my two other "proud to be Italian" friends? The ones that will swear they are Italian until they are azzuri blue in the face, of course until it comes to being in the Italian army for a little bit.........
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National Service is not an obligation anymore. I would have done it if it was still compulsary. However if I was to go back to Italy, and the officials found out, I would be given the option to complete it
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Daft question time.

If you live in England, how come you can vote in Italian elections? Also, were you actually born in Italy or in England?
gianluigi
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Because I'm Italian, I was registered in Italy, I have an Italian passport, I was born in England.
Danny P
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See that makes no sence to me how you can vote to decide what happens in country that you dont live in.

Can you vote in English elections as well then or not?
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quote:
Originally posted by gianluigi
Because I'm Italian, I was registered in Italy, I have an Italian passport, I was born in England.

surely if you born in england than your english
gianluigi
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Originally posted by Danny P
See that makes no sence to me how you can vote to decide what happens in country that you dont live in.

Can you vote in English elections as well then or not?


at the end of the day Im Italian, and i have family that live there, so when there is always the chance of my family here returning to italy to live, I have a right to have a vote to decide what goes on there.
gianluigi
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quote:
Originally posted by chr15barn3s
quote:
Originally posted by gianluigi
Because I'm Italian, I was registered in Italy, I have an Italian passport, I was born in England.

surely if you born in england than your english


No.
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quote:
Originally posted by gianluigi
quote:
Originally posted by Danny P
See that makes no sence to me how you can vote to decide what happens in country that you dont live in.

Can you vote in English elections as well then or not?


at the end of the day Im Italian, and i have family that live there, so when there is always the chance of my family here returning to italy to live, I have a right to have a vote to decide what goes on there.


That is just plain crazy .... you can vote in a country you don't live in, and may never live in, but you can't vote in a country you were born in and live in

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Im not sure but i think i can vote in england, my parents can't though.
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quote:
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Im not sure but i think i can vote in england, my parents can't though.


I'm pretty sure you can ....

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quote:
Originally posted by gianluigi
quote:
Originally posted by chr15barn3s
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Originally posted by gianluigi
Because I'm Italian, I was registered in Italy, I have an Italian passport, I was born in England.

surely if you born in england than your english


No.



Why are you rolling your eyes? If you are born and raised in a country, no matter where your parents are from you obtain the naitionality?

Is this not correcT?
gianluigi
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quote:
Originally posted by Jambo


Why are you rolling your eyes? If you are born and raised in a country, no matter where your parents are from you obtain the naitionality?

Is this not correcT?


the rolling of eyes was because i've heard that type of comment and argued it so many times.

and no, this is not correct.
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so how do you define nationality then?

Surely when you were born you would of been registered in england? and given an english passport?

Im not having a go, im trying to understand
gianluigi
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I know you're not having a go dude

Read though the posts, I mentioned when i was born, I was registered in Italy, and I have an Italian passport.
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Im not having a go either, was just curious It sounds confusing so I will say no more
gianluigi
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4900986.stm
Prodi decalred winner of the election but Berlusconi disputes, and also Prodi rejects Berlusconi's offer of a Coilition Government.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/4895688.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4898986.stm

If a party won an election by 2 seats, do you think it would be better to have a re-count or a re-vote? or do you think a coilition government would be more suitable? or would you think the winner is the winner, nothing more needed
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never heard of any of them
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this is actually bad news for us, isolates us even more in europe now

i really think we should leave the eu
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quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
so how do you define nationality then?

Surely when you were born you would of been registered in england? and given an BRITISH passport?

Im not having a go, im trying to understand



i've edited that for you
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quote:
Originally posted by gianluigi
quote:
Originally posted by Danny P
See that makes no sence to me how you can vote to decide what happens in country that you dont live in.

Can you vote in English elections as well then or not?


at the end of the day Im Italian, and i have family that live there, so when there is always the chance of my family here returning to italy to live, I have a right to have a vote to decide what goes on there.


Thats ridiculous IMO. But if thats how its, thats how it is

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