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Corsa_16v_man
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Well im looking at sports because my car now has become tiresum....

im looking at the 1.4 16v sports.... but i have noticed some with power steering and some with out.... what do you rekon is the better buy??
bearing in mind.... i shall be mildly tuning this beast...?(throttle bodies)
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Power steering is more comfortable, but some people prefer it without with tuned cars as you can feel more through the steering, plus less weight.

But are you seriously thinking of putting TB's on a 1.4?

Would be easier and cheaper to go for a 1.6 IMO
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10th Apr 06 at 18:51   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
what he said

plus, if you want to raise the rev limit too far, the power steering pump starts to give up, doesnt like more than about 8000 revs
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yeh im seriously thinking about tuning a 1.4.... why not?? haha theres my answer then... considering im looking for about 180bhp i guess its going to be reving over 8k..
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10th Apr 06 at 19:19   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
you wont get 180bhp from it without spending about 15 grand and revving to 10krpm

if you are looking for that power, buy a 1.6, its a waste of time money and effort to do it to a 1.4, believe me, i considered it and the power per £ just wasnt worth it when compared to the 1.6
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u2u muppetsport on here about 1.4 16v tuning
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hmmmm that is alot of money.... i think i could do it cheaper than that though... i dont see were all the price adds up?
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you probably could, but its all stuff that you need that you dont think you need

to get 180bhp from a 1.4, you'd need a forged steel crank, rods and pistons

take a look at the price list on www.sbdev.co.uk

have a look at steel crank, rods and forged pistons, then tell me that you can build a 180bhp 1.4 cheaper than a 180bhp 1.6
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lol i didnt say i could build one cheaper than a 1.6... its just i shall be putting the lump in a nova in the near future and racing..
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but i do see where you are coming from mate
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10th Apr 06 at 19:32   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
it really isnt worth the effort, the 1.6 is a much better starting point, and for 4 or 5 grand, you can have a very very good engine, 180bhp is easy
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Or just XE it for £1500 and start with 155 ish bhp
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or just LET it and start with over 200?? no thats to easy... and anyway we all no small blocks make a great track weapon
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What age are you
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i wud have an Xe Or let then spend 4k or 5k on it.....Simple...
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nearly 20 and yes i can get insured i checked before i even thought about it
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Do research on cost etc and I feel that you will change your mind mate
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yeh buh in all honesty all i asked was about the power steering and im staying small block no matter what
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cost doesnt bother me really... im a fully qualified engineer whos weekly income is 90% disposable? id rather spend it ona car then.. drink? or drugs?
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get a 1.6 over a 1.4
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quote:
Originally posted by escortgti.com
Do research on cost etc and I feel that you will change your mind mate


why?

hes the same age as me, and wants to do the same as me, i know that its gonna cost me 5 grand to build me engine, but im not bothered

and i could insure it now, fairly cheap when compared to an XE or LET
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buy a 1.4 Ferrari
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tis so true.... and if they did a 1.4 ferrari and it went like shit of a shovel... i still wouldnt buy one hahaha....

 
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