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Jake
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22nd Feb 06 at 22:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Used to visit bodybuilding.com quite alot and there is a bloke who posts amusing stories. have a read of some.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/search.php?searchid=5726185

[Edited on 23-02-2006 by jake]
corsa5dr
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PMSL at the Midget one
TNM
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I started training again on monday

lost 8lb in the last few weeks.
drax
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22nd Feb 06 at 22:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Im starting again this weekend, creatine should arrive tomoro or friday
Jake
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whey protein over creatine. Always.
drax
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What are you talking about, you combine your protein intake with creatine....

Those posts are are brilliant!
Jake
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Creatine isn't necessary at all. Better of spending your money on whey protein.
drax
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Ive been on soya protein last year, and just getting back into it again now so will have to pop into town and see what they recommend at the shop. Id rather have it with the protein however, a friend of mine showed some amazing gains when using it
Jake
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Soya protein is not really that good, it contains oestrogen(female sex hormone) and is generally not the best quality protein about. This stuff is very good value -
http://www.creatinestore.co.uk/products/Elite_Whey_Protein.asp
drax
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How much protein is that per serving?
drax
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Save using this thread, would you mind if i added you to msn? if you sent me it, you seem to know what your talking about and I could use some guidance
Jake
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From what i remember its between 24 and 27grams per serving.
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http://www.cheapuksuppliments.co.uk are the best , cheap and free delivery
Craig W
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Creatine is crap.
loo_goblin
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quote:
Originally posted by jake
whey protein over creatine. Always.


i have had this convo with lots of people, i am a creatine man but every other sod i know who supplements in on whey protien, each has its pros and cons, i just take nething anymore, i lost a lot of wieght and am more toned for it now
Nath
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quote:
Originally posted by jake
Soya protein is not really that good, it contains oestrogen(female sex hormone) and is generally not the best quality protein about. This stuff is very good value -
http://www.creatinestore.co.uk/products/Elite_Whey_Protein.asp



When would you take that? Before, during, or after a work out? Been meaning to give something like this a try.
Jake
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It varies. You can take it at any time but i prefered to use it during the one hour after my workout(mixed with water) and then before bed, mixed with milk to slow down digestion.
Craig W
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quote:
Originally posted by loo_goblin
quote:
Originally posted by jake
whey protein over creatine. Always.


i have had this convo with lots of people, i am a creatine man but every other sod i know who supplements in on whey protien, each has its pros and cons, i just take nething anymore, i lost a lot of wieght and am more toned for it now


Muscle is stored protein. When you train, you tear down muscle fibres which need repairing. You need more protein than the avergae man for your muscles to repair, and grow. Protein does this, whether its from whole foods or a supplement. How can creatine be better? Its crap, it just fills your muscles with water. Comapring the 2 for muscle growth is laughable.
Nath
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quote:
Originally posted by jake
It varies. You can take it at any time but i prefered to use it during the one hour after my workout(mixed with water) and then before bed, mixed with milk to slow down digestion.


Might give it a go
Craig W
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
quote:
Originally posted by jake
Soya protein is not really that good, it contains oestrogen(female sex hormone) and is generally not the best quality protein about. This stuff is very good value -
http://www.creatinestore.co.uk/products/Elite_Whey_Protein.asp



When would you take that? Before, during, or after a work out? Been meaning to give something like this a try.


Ideally you need to consume protein every 3'ish hours. To grow muscle your body needs to be in an anabolic state. If you train and dont eat often you'll be in a catabolic state and you wont grow, at all.
Nath
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quote:
Originally posted by Craig W
quote:
Originally posted by Nath
quote:
Originally posted by jake
Soya protein is not really that good, it contains oestrogen(female sex hormone) and is generally not the best quality protein about. This stuff is very good value -
http://www.creatinestore.co.uk/products/Elite_Whey_Protein.asp



When would you take that? Before, during, or after a work out? Been meaning to give something like this a try.


Ideally you need to consume protein every 3'ish hours. To grow muscle your body needs to be in an anabolic state. If you train and dont eat often you'll be in a catabolic state and you wont grow, at all.


Thanks for the advice.
Jake
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
quote:
Originally posted by jake
It varies. You can take it at any time but i prefered to use it during the one hour after my workout(mixed with water) and then before bed, mixed with milk to slow down digestion.


Might give it a go


Yeh, try taking it at different intervals and see what works best for you.Obviously its just a supplement so theres no need to take it 4 or 5 times a day, could replace a serving or two with a chicken breast or similar.
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i just feel fat when i have done whey protien, i dont use supplements just a better diet i always had a high protien diet but now i eat less fatty protien foods.

i dont use gyms anymore, dont like working out with other people, where as wen i used the college gym it was me and my 2 mates and that was it.

just swim twice weekly, hockey train twice weekly and hockey match one or twice weekly is enough aswel as nighly and morning sit ups and press ups, dont wish for muscle building any more just toning
Craig W
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I see people in the gym who train all the time and never change, always look the same. Anyone can train and tear your muscles fibres up, its the repair and growth thats important. Training is the easiest part, it's the other 23 hours in the day thats the hard bit.
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Jake
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quote:
Originally posted by loo_goblin
i just feel fat when i have done whey protien


what protein powder was that?

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