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Cheb
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13th Feb 06 at 18:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Just been sent this link about getting cheaper fuel

what do you think?

http://www.pipelinecard.org
Ian
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13th Feb 06 at 18:58   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I think search and read every other thread about it!
Greasemonkey
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My TD tank is full of the finest sunflower oil at the mo £47p a litre now thats cheap
James_DT
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Did the TD take that without modification? What's it like to run on? Where do you buy it?
Greasemonkey
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Yup runs 100% ya would never know, if ya got a lucus pump its dodgey but you can run 100% sunflower oil with botch pump, but as its cold 60/40 will be fine.
The lucus pump is not self lubricating so run too much sunflower oil and the diesel wont lubricate it so it will die eventually.
Get my sun flower oil from TESCO cheapest around haha
Dont work on HDI 306
All Torque
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quote:
Originally posted by Greasemonkey
My TD tank is full of the finest sunflower oil at the mo £47p a litre now thats cheap


Mine too! I still reak or hot chip oil
Greasemonkey
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All Torque
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quote:
Originally posted by Greasemonkey
Yup runs 100% ya would never know, if ya got a lucus pump its dodgey but you can run 100% sunflower oil with botch pump, but as its cold 60/40 will be fine.
The lucus pump is not self lubricating so run too much sunflower oil and the diesel wont lubricate it so it will die eventually.
Get my sun flower oil from TESCO cheapest around haha
Dont work on HDI 306


Oh, you just use veg oil by itself?
I make Bio-Diesel and you dont need any modifications at all. cheap cheap cheap!
Greasemonkey
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U2u me some info, does Bi-oil retain the lubrication the engine needs
All Torque
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PK1
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does the 47p/litre vegetable oil make the car noticeably slower? Aparantely its only 97% as powerful as diesel

also why do you say it doesn't work on HDi engines?
James_DT
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quote:
Originally posted by Greasemonkey
Get my sun flower oil from TESCO cheapest around haha

Don't they wonder why you're buying 60 litres of the stuff?
Jodi_the_g
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Hope you pay the duty on this stuff as well.
Steve
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yeah if your not paying tax on the sun flower oil you cna be prosecuted
PK1
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14th Feb 06 at 20:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
naturally...

anyway what I was asking, directed to greaemonkey, was why do you say it wont work on HDi engines?
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At ambient temperatures vegetable oil is more viscous than mineral diesel fuel. Thus, the injection pump must work harder to draw the oil from the fuel tank. The vegetable oil also has a higher flash point (the temperature at which it ignites). If it is used in a cold engine, the engine is difficult to start and liable to suffer from coking up. The extra load placed on the pump from sucking the more viscous oil can cause it to fail.
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precisely

however certain (namely older) cars run fine on pure veggie oil (SVO) and many modern engines run fine on a 50/50 misture

all i wanted to know is why isnt this the case with HDi blocks

 
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