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anyone else watch this?
i think that bloke is spot on with what he says/believes etc
http://www.simonyi.ox.ac.uk/dawkins/WorldOfDawkins-archive/index.shtml
basically science v religion
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maybe a bit too advanced thinking for corsas drivers tho 
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Ojc
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Would I enjoy it?
I am totally apposed to Religion, time for people to wake up and smell the freshly ground coffee.
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yes, you'd love his thinking
"Scientific beliefs are supported by evidence, and they get results. Myths and faiths are not and do not. "
he has another program on the 16th jan,
is so true what he says, he went around the world talking to people from different religions and their believes and it all seemed so strange and primative how these people believe in something.
"if your god created everything who created your god?"
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"Out of all of the sects in the world, we notice an uncanny coincidence: the overwhelming majority just happen to choose the one that their parents belong to. Not the sect that has the best evidence in its favour, the best miracles, the best moral code, the best cathedral, the best stained glass, the best music: when it comes to choosing from the smorgasbord of available religions, their potential virtues seem to count for nothing, compared to the matter of heredity. This is an unmistakable fact; nobody could seriously deny it. Yet people with full knowledge of the arbitrary nature of this heredity, somehow manage to go on believing in their religion, often with such fanaticism that they are prepared to murder people who follow a different one."
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"Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence."
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maybe just looks like waffle to you guys, but really puts thing into perspective when you sit things side by side
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will watch it tonight jim
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Totally agree with him Jim, glad you found this because its been a ongoing topic of conversation at work with the idiots that cannot get there head around that I think religion is tosh and the cause of all things bad.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ally
will watch it tonight jim
not sure if its on tonight 
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Totally agree with him Jim, glad you found this because its been a ongoing topic of conversation at work with the idiots that cannot get there head around that I think religion is tosh and the cause of all things bad.
yep, cause of evil
he met some people who believe killing gives them a better afterlife etc
they all believe in a mythical being, no proof, no evidence, nothing but age old rumours passed down
he went on to say would you believe in a teapot that orbits the sun, it would seem stupid to believe it and no one would, its too small to see with any telescope but it could be there, no one can prove otherwise.
but if everyone started to believe in the teapot then would you be the odd one out? as you don't believe in something that no one has seen or proved, but just because someone years ago said it was there
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Exactly the argument that I'm using currently.
For example, Jesus and the bible is as much as a story as people being abducted by aliens, but people are inclined to believe in Jesus because someone said so.
[Edited on 12-01-2006 by Ojc]
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http://channel4.com/culture/microsites/C/can_you_believe_it/debates/rootofevil.html
a two part thing apparantely, is worth watching imo
group delusion = we all want to believe that we superior but no one else believes in you, so all believing in the same superior being makes these people feel united
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