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Melville
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11th Jan 06 at 19:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Im looking at upgrading and was wondering what everyone thought was best? Im not a serious gamer, but I do play the odd one. Just clocked half life 2 on my current 1.7ghz P4, so Im not looking at anything stupidly fast and priced. I mainly use photoshop, office, the web, encode and burn a few dvds. Ive got a budget of 100

Thanks, Mark
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11th Jan 06 at 19:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

to swap to an AMD chip you will need to change the mother board as well, not 100% but i wouldnt have thought you could do it for 100
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Yeah Ive got about 60 to spend on a motherboard budgeted in. I need a new one as Im still running on SD Ram

So motherboard problems aside what would you pick for a budget of 100 or less?
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AMD is much better than Intel (ready for arguments)

AMD chips are actually clocked much lower, but they are larger chips, so get 'more done' in the same amount of time.

This means less chance of crashing and more stable in general, and you will find them cheaper too
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intel = a ferrari
amd = monster truck

i prefer amd, there quicker.
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u hav u2u
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quote:
Originally posted by PK1
AMD is much better than Intel (ready for arguments)

AMD chips are actually clocked much lower, but they are larger chips, so get 'more done' in the same amount of time.

This means less chance of crashing and more stable in general, and you will find them cheaper too


They are larger chips. wtf
An AMD chip will be no more stable than an Intel one if both are set up properly.
They have a different architecture.
I personally like AMD because imo they offer better value for money.
Pound for pound you'll probably be better buying an AMD although i'm not sure how well either of them perform lately at the top end of the market.
Have a look and see what fits the budget, then search for reviews of them on google.
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John, if you knew anything about microchip architecture then you would know AMD are in fact thicker and bulkier chips. This is how they are clocked lower yet are the same speed as a higher clocked Intel.

And yes, AMD chips are more stable.
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PK1 do you actually have a clue about anything.
Did you learn all this while you were studying for whatever law degree you managed to get at 18?
Thicker and bulkier chips does not mean it can be clocked lower and do more.
The only reason the die on the chip would be bigger is because AMD hadn't yet moved down to 90nm.
Do you even know what part of the chip is the actual chip.
How can AMD chips be more stable.
How do intel get away with selling chips that aren't stable.
Only problem in recent times with intel was the floating point bug which is no longer there.
Please will you go away and stop misinforming people on any subject you decide you are an expert in that day.
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AMD can handle more insturctions per cycle, due to better architecture & pipelining than intel chips...

intel chips have a far more quicker memory bus than amd chips

AMD are a better processor for games & such, where its raw processing power & not memory bandwidth which is the key

Intel chips are better for video & sound encoding, due to the quicker memory access speeds

HOWEVER

Intel Pentium-M chips (which can be used in desktop systems) are similiar to AMD's performance stakes, where a 1.4Ghz chip is actually on par with the 3ghz P4 equivelant, BUT the memory bandwidth is also quicker than AMD's but not as quick as the original desktop P4

therefor, the Pentium-M chips are better still for gaming, IF you clock them up a bit (say to 1.8 to 2ghz from a 1.6ish ghz chip)

again... the argument for which is better can go on & on & on, but it depends what your gona do...

If its just normal word processing & gaming, go for AMD

if your doing alot of video encoding (DVD-ripping & authoring for example) then stick with Intel...
PK1
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see john you were wrong again

ya wanker!
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If this is a competition to be wrong can I ask that you compare your post to that which is acceptable under policy, and see how far away you are there.
John
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quote:
Originally posted by PK1
see john you were wrong again

ya wanker!


Thanks for the u2u mate, I think i'm a twat to
I don't see where I was wrong?
I'm fully aware of the differences between chips and architectures.
I'm just fed up with people posting utter rubbish in reply to questions incase people actually go and take their advice.

 
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