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Ben
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11th Jan 06 at 17:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

need to join a union quick.

this is why: Am a last year apprentice sparky , to cut it short we have to do a portfolio as part of our course. So i handed in my portfolio last month and i put a picture to the wrong job , so my college went to see my boss and told him not to sign my work off inless its the correct picture for the job

so today i called my boss asking him where i am working tomorrow , he tells me , i then say i need to drop my portfolio so my college guy can pick it up.

he then says if its wrong he will sack me i laugh as i though he were kidding and he says "am serious i will sack you"


so where do i stand if he does? apart from on the street
sxi16vjoe
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11th Jan 06 at 18:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If he sacks you you can to tribunal.I got sacked over a speeding ticket. Proved that it werent me and still didnt get my job back.

I just sorted it privately. Should of gone tribunal though.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben
need to join a union quick.

this is why: Am a last year apprentice sparky , to cut it short we have to do a portfolio as part of our course. So i handed in my portfolio last month and i put a picture to the wrong job , so my college went to see my boss and told him not to sign my work off inless its the correct picture for the job

so today i called my boss asking him where i am working tomorrow , he tells me , i then say i need to drop my portfolio so my college guy can pick it up.

he then says if its wrong he will sack me i laugh as i though he were kidding and he says "am serious i will sack you"


so where do i stand if he does? apart from on the street


Ben mate, u C.I.T.B or not?
PK1
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11th Jan 06 at 18:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

sxi16vjoe -

how did you get sacked over a speeding ticket? you should have sued them to hell and back again for that mate

or was it for driving an uninsured company car when you werent meant to be?
Ben
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11th Jan 06 at 18:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by MikeE
quote:
Originally posted by Ben
need to join a union quick.

this is why: Am a last year apprentice sparky , to cut it short we have to do a portfolio as part of our course. So i handed in my portfolio last month and i put a picture to the wrong job , so my college went to see my boss and told him not to sign my work off inless its the correct picture for the job

so today i called my boss asking him where i am working tomorrow , he tells me , i then say i need to drop my portfolio so my college guy can pick it up.

he then says if its wrong he will sack me i laugh as i though he were kidding and he says "am serious i will sack you"


so where do i stand if he does? apart from on the street


Ben mate, u C.I.T.B or not?


Whats C.I.T.B?

you mean JIB? and no my company aint




Just signed up to Amicus
sxi16vjoe
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11th Jan 06 at 18:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by PK1
sxi16vjoe -

how did you get sacked over a speeding ticket? you should have sued them to hell and back again for that mate

or was it for driving an uninsured company car when you werent meant to be?



No it turned out that the van I had was cloned. My boss sacked me on the basis that I would lose my licence. But with the photo evidence it proved it wasnt me. Sign written van you see. But my boss refused to re-instate me.

I was only 18 at the time so I just fucked his car, house and gave him a hiding whne I bumped into him one night.
sxi16vjoe
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11th Jan 06 at 18:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

CITB is Construction industry training board. I think.
Ben
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quote:
Originally posted by sxi16vjoe
CITB is Construction industry training board. I think.


is that a union?

or something for apprentabitches?
sxi16vjoe
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11th Jan 06 at 18:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

they run the courses at college. Come and see you at work.
langey
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11th Jan 06 at 18:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i was under the impression, if you dont pass in colage while doing an apprenticeship, the boss has every right to fuck you off. i had to pass every year for 4 years or faced the sack. passed every year with flying colours

maybe you boss was just in a bad mood, in most cases they wont sack you just for doing the course wrong, ubnless you keep doing it wrong and are shit at the job. you normally get another chance, after all he has put alot of time and money into training you up, he aint gonna want to start all over again with a fresh apprentice is he.
Ben
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my training company thing is called city training , fucking useless though
sxi16vjoe
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quote:
Originally posted by langey
i was under the impression, if you dont pass in colage while doing an apprenticeship, the boss has every right to fuck you off. i had to pass every year for 4 years or faced the sack. passed every year with flying colours

maybe you boss was just in a bad mood, in most cases they wont sack you just for doing the course wrong, ubnless you keep doing it wrong and are shit at the job. you normally get another chance, after all he has put alot of time and money into training you up, he aint gonna want to start all over again with a fresh apprentice is he.



Bullshit. Apprentices are paid for by government funding. Unless your lucky enough to have a boss who will pay you extra out of his/her pocket.
langey
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11th Jan 06 at 19:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by sxi16vjoe
quote:
Originally posted by langey
i was under the impression, if you dont pass in colage while doing an apprenticeship, the boss has every right to fuck you off. i had to pass every year for 4 years or faced the sack. passed every year with flying colours

maybe you boss was just in a bad mood, in most cases they wont sack you just for doing the course wrong, ubnless you keep doing it wrong and are shit at the job. you normally get another chance, after all he has put alot of time and money into training you up, he aint gonna want to start all over again with a fresh apprentice is he.



Bullshit. Apprentices are paid for by government funding. Unless your lucky enough to have a boss who will pay you extra out of his/her pocket.


put alot of time in training him up, or has he just been left to do it himself??
time is money you know.
if a boss has trained someone up to a good standard and to there way of thinking, then why would he get rid of him so easy and start all over with someone else, this would be going backwards which will cost more money.
Ben
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can i just sayi got apprentice of the year award last year , got the higest score in my exams in my class , i am good at my job and my boss is a cunt

he cant sack me if my fucking portfolio aint right , they send it back and i add or change things , hes saying that i cant , if i hand it in and its wrong he will sack me ?

ill knock the cunts head off and fuck his daughter and make his like
Ben
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11th Jan 06 at 19:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

also i think the firm is struggling and they are trying to get rid of alot if not everyone
Jules S
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11th Jan 06 at 20:48   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

So your boss has your portfolio and wont give it back?

Im not following
ChazSXi
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11th Jan 06 at 21:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

he cant do it, uve signed a contract and uve both given sufficient consideration and its legally binding!

if he sacks u get him sued for breach of contract and unfair dismissal my son!

[Edited on 11-01-2006 by ChazSXi]
Ben
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11th Jan 06 at 21:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by benny_h
So your boss has your portfolio and wont give it back?

Im not following


no mate , i have to get everything signed by him to show i have done the work .

then a guy from outside of college comes and signs it off

i have it here
Jules S
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Im guessing that fraudulently admissing a folio, and so failing course will be a sackable offence

If, however, the wrong foto was a genuine mistake then there may be grounds for manoeuvre
Ben
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11th Jan 06 at 21:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i aint failed it , and i did make a mistake
Jules S
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11th Jan 06 at 21:41   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ah, cross post...

so where's the problem then?

Ben
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11th Jan 06 at 21:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my training guy bollockd my boss for signing it.

so now hes said he will sack me if its wrong, i think its all ok and all pictures are correct but if i need to describe the jobs better ect he will sack me
Jules S
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11th Jan 06 at 21:50   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Nah, IMO you are worrying about nothing mate

As said before your boss is getting funding to train you. It doesnt look good if he is signing stuff off you havent done. That will no doubt affect his ability to take on other apprentices...

If your folio is genuine in its content (good or bad, but good enough to pass) then you have no worries
Ben
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11th Jan 06 at 22:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well he said that if its not right when i hand it in he will sack me .

getting on to the union and JIB tomorrow to say how hes treating apprentabitches
sxi16vjoe
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben
can i just sayi got apprentice of the year award last year , got the higest score in my exams in my class , i am good at my job and my boss is a cunt

he cant sack me if my fucking portfolio aint right , they send it back and i add or change things , hes saying that i cant , if i hand it in and its wrong he will sack me ?

ill knock the cunts head off and fuck his daughter and make his like


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