MR2Mike
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the power figures are upsetting me greatly   i drove a 1.6 ages ago and it felt really quick, but the power figures in the latest total vauxhall are poo for a big car really. surely the 1.8 must be decent?
what can you expect to get out of them with a bt of "tweaking"? 
lol, thanks in advance 
[Edited on 04-01-2006 by Mike_Corsa]
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Chris F
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get a high powerd small car lad!
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MR2Mike
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haha chris, insurance is the big stumbling block. and i cant have car off road to do conversion.
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Robin
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depends what year you go for, the later ones had 123bhp, and are a pretty good engine
with regards to tuning, you can get 250bhp by turboing them with a dbilas turbo kit
or, with a dbilas inlet, you can expect a gain of about 40bhp, which should make it a nice nippy motor
all the other rules apply still of course, like exhaust, filter etc, but you wont see massive gains from them as with any car
i looked at one a while back, and for a 1.8, they arent as bad as the figures suggest
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For a 1.8 I think they put out around 120bhp, which is shit.
For example, go up 200cc's to a 2 litre Honda lump in the Civic Type R, that produces 200bhp, how can you get 80bhp from 200cc 
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MR2Mike
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thanks rob mate. how much would it cost to convert a 1.8 to a turbo?
the inlet is like £900 aint it?
[Edited on 04-01-2006 by Mike_Corsa]
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MR2Mike
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rcb that sentence baffled me, but i cant insure any jap cars just yet
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by Rcb
For a 1.8 I think they put out around 120bhp, which is shit.
For example, go up 200cc's to a 2 litre Honda lump in the Civic Type R, that produces 200bhp, how can you get 80bhp from 200cc
because of VTEC, try comparing it to other 1800s and its about the same
bhp isnt the be all and end all anyway, torque and power delivery are where its at
the CTR will give 197bhp @a million rpm, but you cant drive it on the limiter all the time
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Chris F
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Rcp.. this is corsa sport lad not honda fuckin rice forums!
Keep ye jap shit to ya self! Ight Blud
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MR2Mike
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MR2Mike
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rob any idea on turbo conversion cost for a 1.8 matey?
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Chris F
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Rcp= Rice Crackel Pop!
Jap 11' inch back box.. right up ur street!
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Corsa
thanks rob mate. how much would it cost to convert a 1.8 to a turbo?
the inlet is like £900 aint it?
[Edited on 04-01-2006 by Mike_Corsa]
i think the turbos are £3902 (that shocked me when i just looked), but thats evertything youd need
the inlet is over a grand in fact
http://www.regal-shop.co.uk/asps/Search.asp?type=Throttle+Bodies+%2F+Inlet+Manifolds+%3E+Astra+Mk4&types=yes
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MR2Mike
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shit i know you may not agree, and jamie walby certainly wouldnt, but a grand for the inlet seems extremely expensive lol. would you advise that i not piss about and go for the 2.0 turbo like a real man ? lmfao
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mk4_astra
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well i used to own the 1.8 sri (123bhp) which was nippy but im not sure if the sport has the close ratio box. my old astra was completely even in every gear with a mates audi a3 sport(1.8 20v, non turbo) which are 138 bhp i believe
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MR2Mike
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yeah ive posted about 3 threads regardin mk4 astras today, just need to know about tuning etc now . bit worried by the figures , even more so as i was having a mess about race with a 1.6 astra the other night (totally empty long road, (both just having a laugh for a bit then slowing down when traffic arrived) and i was right on his bumper really without even trying, and tbh my corsa is slow now with 17s on.
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Corsa
shit i know you may not agree, and jamie walby certainly wouldnt, but a grand for the inlet seems extremely expensive lol. would you advise that i not piss about and go for the 2.0 turbo like a real man ? lmfao
depends really, if you are loking for a nice, useable practical car, go for the 1.8, or even the 2 litre as they are cheaper
but, if you want something that looks hard and goes better, go for a gsi, but the prices are about the same as a 1.8 sport, and the cost of the turbo conversion
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MR2Mike
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ill be spending around £4000 max on car matey. what would you recommend for that ?
do want it to be practical yes, hence why im selling corsa. but cant insure as much as others can on here.
20, no NCB, 2 years driving, extremely bad post code
[Edited on 04-01-2006 by Mike_Corsa]
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Robin
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2.0 sri
you'll find a better 2 litre for the money than a 1.8, as the 1.8s are more expensive at the moment
also, the sri has the better badge
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MR2Mike
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thanks, does it come with the irmscher kit ? (thats another thing its got to have sorry i didnt say before. and obvious things like abs power steering and leccy windows)
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rob what about the 2.2s, or are they more expensive than the 1.8s?
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Robin
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irmscher kit was optional, but there will be a few about to chose from
all have power steering and leccy windows, abs i think, but not sure, also, the 2litre has switchable traction control, which is nice
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by mk4_astra
rob what about the 2.2s, or are they more expensive than the 1.8s?
2.2 is more than the 1.8
basically what happened was vauxhall upped the power of the 1.8, then released the 2.2 and then dropped the 2litre so they didnt over crowd the range
2.2 is VERY good, but a good one will be a good £6.5k
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MR2Mike
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cheers, want it to look like this basically mate:
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by mk4_astra
quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Corsa
thanks, does it come with the irmscher kit ? (thats another thing its got to have sorry i didnt say before. and obvious things like abs power steering and leccy windows)
Y reg onwards i believe for the 1.8s, i havnt seen a 2.0 or 2.2 without the irmscher kit
my brother in law has a 2.2, and it had no irmsher kit, he had to buy it after and get it fitted and sprayed himself
his is a 52 plate
actually, the 2 litre may have had it standard, but im not sure
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