N90ATH
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ok so wot u all sayin is just the basic kits will do for everyday use?
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N90ATH
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Thats the best thing you've ever done mate
wots matt done
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ed
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Yep, don't go too lairy with it or it will need too much maintainence. Most kits with cams are good for 200bhp.
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ed
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http://www.webcon.co.uk/alpha/AlphaPlusKits.htm
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N90ATH
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wot power would i belooking at with alpha gold kit and wot are the draw backs?
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ed
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With the gold kit you would be looking at about 180bhp. No drawbacks really, they are good throttle bodys. The main factor when tuning the engine is the cams. You need slightly higher lift and longer duration to make get the most out of the TB's...
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N90ATH
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so if i was to get aplha gold kit wot else would u recomemnd as the kit is cheaper
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ed
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Rod bolts, some slightly more lairy cams and pocketed pistons... That should see you to around 200bhp. If you were happy with the 180bhp then just get the rod bolts...
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N90ATH
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hmmm think i would just try rod bolts to start with then when get bored of pwer upgrade, which kit is better through 208sbd kit or alpha kit :S
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The SBD TB's are Tapered and the Alpha ones are paralell. I have no idea whats better, but I think each have thier benefits. The Alpha kit comes with a base map already installed, so you can fit the kit to the engine and run it for a bit, then same up some money for some more bits and a re-map. I'm not sure how the ECU comes in an SBD kit, though I think it has a base map...
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N90ATH
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yer never really knew much bout parrellel or tapered anyone know?
sbd seems to come with everything including bolts so may order that up
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Yea, you see more SBD equipped cars, so I am guessing that is because it's the better kit. I think the main reason it costs more is because it really does have every little bit you need...
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N90ATH
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hmmm may hve to order one in the new yr and then rest of parts and egine lol
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ed
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Ians got a 2.0 for sale for £250 I think. There is also a guy on Mig who has a 2.0 in pieces not doing anything. Offer him about £100-200 to take it off his hands. It's kind of convenient that it's in pieces too...
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N90ATH
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aye well may have too look into those mates dad also selling an astra gte apprently and after 50 quid as its rusty and failed mot hmmmmmmm
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Go for it, sounds like you are going to be spending a few ££ getting the engine sweet - just make sure the engine isn't burning oil as you want the block to be in decent condition.
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N90ATH
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aye will be looking around, might even exchange for a reconed block as mate can get it cheaper as he works for vuaxhall apprently so gonna see bout that as well, but rebuild still seems cheaper
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Oh, you need to add oil pump to you re-build list... There are so many parts you can replace, the more you do, the better the engine will be 
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N90ATH
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mate if i can i want to replace basically everything hence y i am thinking bout a reconed lump
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Yea, you see more SBD equipped cars, so I am guessing that is because it's the better kit. I think the main reason it costs more is because it really does have every little bit you need...
SBD are the sole uk seller of a manifold for fitting jenvey TBs to an X16XE, noone else can sell them
you cant even buy them from jenvey
which may be why SBD seem to be the brand to go for for most people on here
SBD are really helpful too, i ordered my cambelt and rollers and got them the next day
[Edited on 28-12-2005 by robmarriott]
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mate if i can i want to replace basically everything hence y i am thinking bout a reconed lump
Go for a re-conned engine then. It will cost less than a re-build!
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Robin
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yer never really knew much bout parrellel or tapered anyone know?
sbd seems to come with everything including bolts so may order that up
parallel bodies are similar to weber DCOE carbs to lok at, Tapers are generally all seperate, instead of 2 pairs
parallel bodies are the same internal diameter all the way through, tapers decrease in diameter towards the head, increasing the airspeed and giving more torque
to be honest, tapers are the best, but they will be coinsiderably more money, and harder to set up
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Nic Barnes
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tapers are much better throttle boddies
and as mentioned somewhere else, maybe fads spec i think.....
LSD
no point if having any amount of power and spending all that money to not move anywhere.
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Nic Barnes
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oh and really??? a 6 speed????
no.
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N90ATH
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lol was only thinking bout a 6 speed.
looking at the 225 taper kit from sbd whihc is 2.5k
gonna go meet my mate laterz and find out how much he can get reecon lump on exchange for me
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