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"The real destiny of Man is something that ordinary men could not conceive of and would be unable to stomach if given a glimpse of it. Our revolution is a final stage in an evolution that will end by abolishing history. My party comrades have no conception of the dreams that haunt my mind or of the grandiose edifice of which the foundations, at least, will have been laid before I die. The world has reached a turning point, and will undergo an upheaval which you uninitiated people cannot understand."
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here here
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its true tho
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You are all weak minded, only I can understand and appreciate the master.
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quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
its true tho


It is true.
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The aforementioned words were told to Nazi Party members who Hitler believed were not even ready for his heavy truths. The last world war was not simply a war fought between the Allies and the Axis or Democracy and Despotism. It was a war fought between Science and Magic, and science won. It was also the planetary battlefield of Galactic War III, when alien civilizations sponsoring the Nazis and alien civilizations sponsoring the Americans fought once again for control of planet Earth ...... while using its unsuspecting armies as pawns in their interstellar conflict. It is a well documented publicized fact that Hitler often went into trances and spoke to his military commanders. His chair press officer, Dr. Dietrich testified his belief that Hitler was possessed by demons. Hitler told his High Command his belief in the Superman who had ruled the planet in the times of Atlantis and Thule, and after the war of the gods that led to the fall of Atlantis the Superman, who were the Masters of the World, had gone underground. Hitler said he took his orders for the Nazi conquest from the Superman who lived inside the Earth. In a conversation with, Governor Rausching, a man who tried to tell the Nazi Leader of the great difficulty of genetically creating a new species, Hitler replied "The New Man is living among us now! He is here! Isn't that I enough for you? I will tell you a secret. I have seen the New Man. He is intrepid and cruel. I was afraid of him!

However, the Sirian Orion conflict had been raging across the galaxy for millenniums. Mars and Mercury had been in the second intergalactic War here, victims of nuclear devastation, Maldek had been blown into the asteroid belt, and planets In the Pleiades, Orion, and in other systems had become nuclear wastelands. Earth had seen two nuclear wars in the last 13,000 years and the Sirians and Orions were bringing in the technology for a third.

In the early 1930s a group of human aliens, the K-Group or Kondroskans, had secretly contacted President Franklin Delanor Roosevelt and offered technological aid in return for a treaty. Little is known here about that proposal. However, apparently the Pentagon and civilian military & affiliated scientists broke the agreement and the K-Group abandoned the Americans claiming they abused the technology and agreement.

ln the late 19th Century and early 20th century the great scientist Nikola Tesla was reportedly contacted by the Pleiadeans and their Venusian based allies, and given the technology that led to his invention of the AC/DC electric current dozens of electronic devices popular today, hundreds of instruments used in aerospace technology and electromagnetics, and hundreds of patents. Tesla was arguably the greatest scientist of modern times, based on the number of important popular inventions he initiated that he patented. Without the AC/DC Edison's electricity was worthless to the masses and long distance. He was Edison's top inventor, and was also one of the two leading radio technology inventors of the century. He publicly credited extraterrestrials with his inventions, which led many people to believe he was a mad scientist.

Early in this century Tesla invented a powerful two-way radio device that allegedly picked up intelligent radio signals from Mars and a base on Venus, After Tesla died(or was allegedly assassinated in 1943), Dr. Arthur Matthews and the great Canadian scientist Dr. Wilbur Smith continued to experiment with this communications device. In the 1950s they established Project Magnet, the Canadian government UFO Investigation, and claimed they actually arranged a landing and contact with a Venusian based spacecraft using Tesla's technology. The Project Magnet Report, which I have read, contains several inventions allegedly from alien contact that were built by Matthews and actually worked!

However, in the early 1930s Tesla was a good friend of FDR, and reportedly arranged a secret meeting between the Pleiadean ambassadors and the President. The Pleiadeans allegedly warned the President about the alien contacts with Hitler, and that the greys were supplying the Nazis with technology designs to take over the world(for the greys) and use genetics to create alien hybrids that could live in our atmosphere! The Pleiadeans were said to have offered technology, via Tesla, to neutralize the Nazi attack in exchange for dismantling the Pentagon's war machine and altering our economy to sharing and trade and our government to a spiritual council. The Pleiadeans would not interfere in our government yet they would recommend a new system and if we rejected it they would give us no aid. Roosevelt rejected their offer as a threat to his(and the Pentagon's) power and economic dominance, and Naval Intelligence preferred to work with the Sirians and use their technology to defeat the Nazis.

The greys initially gave the Nazis a technology far more advanced than the Americans had then, including guided missile rockets, Jet planes, superior electronics, superior submarines, etc. and the Germans never lost a battle until late 1940...their science being far in advance of England and the Allies. Meanwhile, unknown to most American military men, Hitler's Inner Circle of advisors met in a secret room and meditated nightly, using magical rituals from their initiations into secret societies. Borman, Himruler, Goering, Hess, and other top Nazi leaders were all advanced degree initiates in the ancient Vril Society from Atlantis, still surviving in the 20th Century in secret chambers. The Vril Society was related to the Brotherhood of the Golden Dawn of the most famous magician in the world, Aleister Crowley, Most Nazi SS elite members were initiates in these occult societies or the Teutonic Knights, or even the Knights of Malta that Mousolini's Italian Axis commanders hired allegiance. The Thule Society in Germany, named after their traditional belief in the Lost Continent of Thule of the Golden Age of the Teutonic Supermen, was a secret order many Nazis were initiated into before the war. The founders of the Nazi empire believed that the Aryans were descendants from the supermen who had ruled the planet from Thule in the golden age, and the Aryans were destined to rule the planet in the future golden age. This Nordic blonde haired blue eyed race, which originated in the Lyran Constellation, was the original super-race on the planet in pre-Sirian Earth. The Nazis believed that the history of our planet is in cycles of civilizations that became great and were destroyed. There had been four root-races in the past...Etherian, Thule, Lemurjan, and Atlantean...and the Nazis were to be the Fifth root race or the Aryans. The Nazis believed that planetary cataclysms before the end of this century would destroy civilization on our planet and the Masters of the World would emerge from inside the Earth to lead the Nazis to rule the world. It was the destiny of Nazis to exterminate the other races from foreign planets that had interfered in their perceived evolution of Earth, so that the original Thule Aryan race remained. Hitler regarded the Jews as an inferior race from another planet. (He actually wrote that!)

Hitler was trained by psychics in Austria and was taught how to hypnotize people and put them into trance so they could be controlled. That is how he mesmerized his generals to follow his orders like robots, even when they were intellectually totally opposed! He had a deep gazing hypnotic stare from his evil controlling eyes. He also had an official psychic department, in his government, that was exposed after the war when troops ravaged Berlin. A few highly paid highly secret highly trained psychics reportedly mastered astral projection, or out-of-the-body travel, and used it to spy on the enemy before battles! One of them was Hanshouser.

After World War ll the top German scientists who gave Hitler his rockets, jets, and superior Air Force became US. citizens and invented the American military rocket program, American jet planes, NASA space program, etc. They included Herman Oberth, the father of the rocket, and his portage Dr. Wamer Von Braun! The surviving elite of the Nazi Gestapo and SS became the CIA and INTERPOL!

FOR THE ALIENS WHO SPONSORED THE NAZIS, HITLER WAS A BAD INVESTMENT, THE NAZIS WERE ALSO FINANCED AND SUPPLIED WITH OIL, GAS, LINE, ELECTRICITY, VEHICLES, BOMBS, RUBBER, AND WAR SUPPLIES BY CORPORATIONS CONTROLLED BY THE ILLUMINATI (which made billions of dollars off of the Nazi war machine manufacturing). So what went wrong?

HitIer's visions of grandeur and power, under the influence of the LSD he received from the Sandoz labs and the cocaine he regularly partook in, went literally to his head.

As Hitler Spoke, he was trembling in a strange triumphant ecstasy. The man who had no fear of the titantic military might of America and the Soviets combined used to tremble in fear at the thought of the Superman who guided him and came to visit. He was paranoid of letting down the masters from beyond who gave him orders as he pursued what he believed was his divine mission to create the foundations for the Age of Aquarius. Every battle and every political action was carefully timed by Nazi astrologers and psychics who had been trained in Tibet by the llamas they had studied with. People close to Hitler reported be often awoke in the night screaming and in convulsions. He called for help and was paralyzed (similar to many thousands of UFO abduction cases decades later!). Hitler would then stand swaying and dazed, look around the room as if he were lost, uttering "he is here....he is here...It is he....he has come for me! There....over in the corner...he is there!"

Who was "he" who had come for Hitler? perhaps the grey aliens who found it more expedient to have the Nazis perform their genetic experiments for them before abductions, which are more difficult, came into popularity. Perhaps grey aliens who made a treaty with the leader of the Nazis and planted their secret underground bases in Germany decades before they did the same drama in the United States? And perhaps the invading Orion empire of a 50,000 year star war trying to reclaim the empire they had lost on our planet during the fall of Atlantis during the first intergalactic war.

There is considerable evidence that the greys were trying to use the military might of the Nazis and the Axis to take our planet away from its Sirian landlords who have secretly controlled the United States and the Allies via the llluminatti.

In the intergalactic war involving Atlantis and Lemuria the Orion Empire, the Sirian Alliance, and the Pleiadean United Federation of Planets had all fought each other on Earth. The Sirians, even after losing Atlantis, were victorious when they set up their new planetary capital at Luxor with their interplanetary white house at the Great Pyramid. This Golden Age of dynasties left Sirian Egypt in power for centuries as it ruled over a devastated planet. The Hebrews, who were later sponsored by the Pleiadeans, the Orion dominance in Asia, and the Nibirian controlled Sumerian empire were all lost in the sands of time as Luxor spanned the centuries. The Sirian control over the Roman emperors who worshipped their Earth governors as gods was immense. During the Middle Ages the Sirjan Masters from their White Lodge established the mystery schools, the Knights of Templar, the Teutonic Knights, the Masons, and hundreds of other secret societies that all nobility and regality were initiated into under the oaths of the secrets of the blood codes of death. Most of the initiates in the secret fraternities never knew their masters and gods were extraterrestrials. The High Priests and the kings and the queens who learned the secret never revealed it. Executions were the penalties.

During the times of the Old Testament the different alien nations fought again for the control of the Earth in the second intergalactic war here and once again the Sirians won, The Pleiadeans again had to flee in the centuries before Christ. Sirius controlled Egypt and MesoAmerica. During the Middle Ages of kingdoms and feudal lands the Sirian masters established, through channeling, many conflicting kingdoms, religions, and religions divided into warring factions to keep humanity divided and weak...knowing that a united and strong humanity could expose and stop the Sirjan control. By creating ignorance, war between Earthlings over religion and land, and conflicting philosophies humanity would weaken a planetary basis end never become a threat to the control from another planet.

Hitler became so power hungry and mad that his lust for power inhibited his ability to reason. He also had a well-documented case of syphilis that damaged his brain. His vegetarian diet did not stop his diseases due to his high stress. In 1944 the Nazis were testing flying saucers (we have seen the photos!). The blueprints and films were captured when the Allies raided a German rocket base in 1945, yet the saucers had disappeared. Hitler could have won...but he went mad. He began to believe, that under the influence of the Superman, he was more powerful than the Illuminati. And when he invaded France and threw the leaders of the Illuminati, the Rothschiids, in jail....and tried to personally take over the Illuminati...they retaliated by pulling the economic plug on the Nazis! During the invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941, after never losing a single battle, the llluminati corporations cut off all of Hitler's supplies as his armies were stranded in the snows of a freezing winter outside of Moscow. They cut off the gas and oil for the tanks and planes and weapons, cut spare parts and spare tires for all that was broke and damaged, cut him off from more aircraft and tanks to replace all destroyed...and left his armies stranded and starving after they cut off all the food. Remember that the Illuminati members own all the corporations in the world that produce oil, rubber, electricity, gasoline, weapons, strategic raw materials, electronics, strategic machinery, and all the major food corporations. And they did the same exact boycott to Rommell as the Desert Fox's armies were stranded in the Sahara desert invading Egypt, cut off from all food, oil, spare parts, and materials as-they died of starvation on the southern front, Hitler's dreams of capturing the Great Pyramid and Sphinx to capture the secret sciences and technology of Atlantis, which the Nazis believed to be hidden in secret chambers, turned to sand in the great desert. Meanwhile, at the peak of World War II, Hitler made the fatal mistake of sending some of his top scientists and advisors to the Andes in search of Atlantean gold and science he believed he could rule the world with...and another expedition searching for openings to the Inner Earth where he believed they would be greeted by the Superman who had a sanctuary of escape.

Hitler knew too much. And he abused what he had learned. He was a genius. He was a madman. And he was so controlled by greys that one wonders if maybe he was abducted and had an implant, Speculation?

Today we know that alien bases inside our planet are very real. We know there are masters and superman who live underground from the Orion Empire, the Sirjan Alliance, and at least 30 other alien civilizations! Hitler was correct.

Hitler's twisted cosmology stated Jews were really a form of animal created by genetic hybridization to become part-human but not human. He did not realize that all races on Earth including Aryan Nordics are interplanetary hybrids with ape stock. His masters neglected to tell him that. And they neglected to tell him that the original superman from Lyra were not hybrids or Earthians. They were E.T.s or the gods from the Teutonic legends of the Twilight of the Gods. And the Lyrans were not involved in this interplanetary war. They were the Architects of Dawn who seed the worlds of time and space in the Great Experiment in the dawn of time.

And on Earth the experiment had gotten out of control, Men who believed they could become gods were too human.

The Nazis hated Western science and Hitler called it "idiotic pride." They believed inter dimensional metaphysics, including magic and psychotronics, would win the war over American technology. What they did not realize is that their form of magic was black and it can never win in a karmic universe. The Nazis had even taken the swastika, the Lemurian symbol for the Four Primary Forces of the Universes, and turned it around BACKWARDS to represent the miss-use of the 4 forces... the dark side of nature...black magic. For white magic is nothing more than the positive spiritual application of the psychic sciences aligned with spiritual Ascended Masters of light.

While most New Agers tune into the Great White Brotherhood of Ascended Masters, their hierarchy of cosmic planetary leaders manifesting the golden age of Aquarius ...... the Nazis tuned into the Knights of the Powers of Darkness. These are the dead leaders of Atlantis, Egypt, Rome, Persia, lncalia, and other ancient civilizations who as High Priests, Divine Emperors, Theocratic Kings, and Grand Masters of secret lodges who Miss-used psychic power and black magic when they were alive ........ who are now dead and between lives ...... who try to guide evil dictators and demonic religious leaders from the lower realms of the invisible astral plane. This is what the Nazis believed, and this is what metaphysical researchers tell us about the brotherhoods today.

And Hitler found Crowley's voluminous writings to be deadly true....contact these invisible masters and they will give you all you want on the material plane. Yet you sell them your soul.

It is a testimony to the pandemonium of history that, when Hitler sold his soul to the Knights of the Powers of Darkness, he sacrificed the German people to his gods. And he sacrificed the Jews the same way they had been sacrificed to the Sirian gods in as many centuries A.D. as in the last round B.C. Twighlight of the Gods.

Who is your God? A Sirian. A rebel Pleiadean. A Regalian? A Zetan? Or is it all within? Is it all an illusion or a hobgraphic universe? Or does everything we perceive exist only in the chemistry of our brains? What is the Alpha and the Omega?

Hitler wrote that we would have to make an alliance with the Lords of the Planet and evolve to become lords ourselves, or we will become destined to be slaves to build the new cities for the returning lords of the planet after the devastation.

In a book documenting Hitler's use of magic and the occult, Morning of the Magicians. it is said of Hitler's words....Hitler's aim was neither to found a race of supermen nor the conquest of the world....these were only the MEANS TOWARD THE REALIZATION OF THE GREAT WORK HE DREAMED OF. HIS REAL AIM WAS TO PERFORM AN ACT OF CREATION, A DIVINE OPERATION ..... the goal of a biological mutation that would result in an unprecedented exaltation of the human race and the apparition of a new race of heroes, demi-gods, and godmen."

In other words, the Nazi vision of a world German Empire of Aryans was nothing more than temporary public propaganda to later be replaced by a higher yet secret goal. Performing an act of biological creation and mutation is exactly what the Sirians, Vegans, and PIeiadeans did to the ape and Neandethral Man millions of years ago to create; a new genetic race of modern men, and it is what the Orions and Zetans continue to do to create a hybrid grey human humanoid that is part Them and part us, for a race that cannot naturally live in our deadly atmosphere yet desires to migrate here from a network of dying planets.

During the final days of World War II, when Nazi cities were crumbling under Allied bombs and their mighty armies were being destroyed, the Nazi leaders sacrificed their own people believing they would themselves survive. They were taught that the Supermen would come out of the Earth and save them, and earthquakes, tidal waves, and an axis shift and ice age would destroy America for them before it was too late. They were a few decades off in that prediction: (according to Nostradamus). Hitler's prophecized divine intervention never came, instead his empire fell and the Orions lost another round in their intergalactic war. The Nazi flying saucers were secretly smuggled to their secret bases in South America along with over 20 billion dollars of Nazi gold, and a secret inner circle which became the Fourth Reich and still exists today! They operate with the greys out of secret underground alien bases in the Southern Hemisphere. Their secret rocket technology ended up at Cape Kennedy and Mission Control. Meanwhile, several German and Austrian scientists escaped to America when the Nazis first came to power, changing the history of American science forever. Among them was Austrian scientist Tesla. Another was Professor John Von Neumann, who is credited with inventing the computer.

Tesla, Von Neumann, and Einstein formed a team at Princeton University in the 1930s and created a Think Tank consisting of many famous scientists of the times, and began working on Project Rainbow, which is better known as the Philadelphia Experiment. Using Pleiadean technology from TesIa and Sirian tech that Einstein and Von Neumann somehow got a hold of...the Institute of Advanced Science at Princeton created experiments in invisibility and stealth radar deflection. By 1939 they succeeded in surrounding models with resonating electromagnetic force fields to make them invisible to radar and vision. FDR then decided that the way to win World War II was to make ships and planes invisible to radar...and even to view!

In 1943 the Think Tank, with Naval Intelligence, convinced Admirals that they could make the navy ship Eldridge invisible to enemy radar In Philadelphia Naval harbor, by surrounding it with Einstein's famous Unified Field Theory's application of EM frequencies. The experiment worked too well.

Shortly after it became invisible to radar, the Eldridge and its whole crew became invisible to the eyes of all witnesses. A bright blue flash and it was gone for 20 minutes! Witnesses on nearby ships were harassed by Naval Intelligence and threatened with treasonable charges if they ever revealed what they saw (some leaked it out and later disappeared, like Carlos Miguel AIlende).

When the Eldridge reappeared to shocked Naval brass there was absolute terror. Crew members were bursting into flames and lightning flashed out of their bodies. Many crew members were dead, with bodies frozen into the metal of the ship. Other survivors were totally insane. Some people committed suicide. Hundreds of people ended up in mental institutions to "silence them" and try to cure the insanity.

A few days later some of the sailors who were in the best condition were in a restaurant in Philadelphia and began bursting into flames and becoming invisible in front of shocked employee and customers, The story broke for one day in the Philadelphia Inquirer before it was censored. The Navy, fearing law suites from relatives and bad publicity quickly covered up this horrendous accident!

In the 1950s a scientist, Dr. Morris K. Jessup, discovered the documented evidence and tried to publish it in the Varo Edition, which was censored and banned by the CIA (I have read a rare copy of it). The Varo edition details the Philadelphia experiment and how aliens supplied the technology). Dr. Jessup died under extremely mysterious circumstances when he was healthy and successful, leading many researchers to conclude he was assassinated.

Xian Intelligence read the Varo Edition in 1973, and was told about the PhiladeLphia Experiment by 3 former Army intelligence Agents and two former Naval intelligence commanders. But they did not tell us what happened during the 20 minutes the ship disappeared.

Tesla tried to stop the experiment protesting no live humans should be used in it. He tried to drop out of Project Rainbow and run off with his technology after the accident. Shortly after that he was found dead, and his laboratory had been broken into and all of his inventions and blueprints ripped-off and ransacked. It has been reported in the intelligence community TesIa was assassinated as a security risk. So what happened to his technology?

Einstein and Von Neumann were transferred to the atomic bomb project until 1945. And Project Rainbow was put on hold. Einstein died, yet Von Neumann, who somehow ended up with Tesla's technology, recharged the project in Florida in the late 1940s and it became the Phoenix Project. They continued secret experiments in invisibility which led to the disappearance of many airplanes and boats in the nearby Bermuda Triangle! They also developed Stealth aircraft technology and much of the precision computer hardware used in the Iraq war.

Congress funded all of it until 1969 when it exposed the Phoenix Project experimenting with using secret technology for mind control, and all funding was cutoff.

The project lost their base in Florida yet made a new alliance with llluminatl types in the Pentagon, who arranged an abandoned Air Force Base on Long Lsland(Montauk) and 20 billion dollars worth of stolen Nazi gold to finance the experiments in time travel, mind control, and using technology with psychics to create psychotronlc machinery. It became the infamous Montauk Project.

In the 1980s the technology had become so far advanced that Von Neumann and Preston Nichols, a chief technician, found a way to manipulate time. They succeeded in creating openings(windows) in the space-time continuum to enter and exit time and space on this planet. ln 1983 they succeeded in opening a time window and to their utter amazement, found the Eldridge in the time vortice!

When the Eldridge became invisible in 1943 there were 3 UFOs spying on the experiment (allegedly Sirian). When the ship rematerialized, two brothers were alive and well and told Naval Intelligence they had been to 1983. Nobody believed them, they were judged insane, and Edward Cameron ended up in a mental institution.

lt is said that when the energy vortex in 1943 became out of control, Edward and his brother Duncan Cameron dove overboard to escape, hoping to land in the harbor and swim to shore, Instead they landed on the lawn at Montauk Air Force base in 1983!

lt was 40 years in the future yet they had only aged IO minutes! Greeting the Camerons 40 years in the future was Professor Von Neumann, who was now 40 years older! The old man gazed in amazement at the young sailors he had last seen 40 years ago when he was much younger.

Can you imagine the shock of two sailors from 1943 suddenly finding themselves in 1983 watching television, videos, lasers, Porches, jet planes, computers, freeways, and other marvels that did not exist in 1943! They were in cultural shock. They wanted to stay in this futuristic technological paradise, but they were told they could not. Von Neumann told the sailors that they had to return to 1943 because history said they did! He had to beam them back to turn off the generators on Eldridge because the time vortice was still opening and creating a disaster and dangerous situation.

It is said that Edward went back to 1943 and lived and died with nobody believing his story. Duncan went back then Immediately returned to 1983 where he aged 40 years in only a few weeks! ln the 1980s a Hollywood movie called the Philadelphia Experiment was made, allegedly based on stolen FBI documents. Most of the movie is true yet the names of people were changed due to potential law suits or assassinations. In order to keep the illegal llluminati Montauk location secret the location in the movie was changed to Nevada. The name of the Eldridge was kept. The movie got great reviews from critics yet was quickly banned from the movie theater circuit. It made some cable TV and home video(available) yet it is not a well known video.

What is not in the video is that a Sirian spacecraft that was spying on the experiment was reportedly sucked into the time hole land crashed in 1983 at Montauk. The ship was confiscated by Von Neumann and his scientists. Later, some Sirian astronauts came to the base and tried to get the motor drive back from Von Neumann, and he tried to keep it from them! Scientists at the project got in a hasale with the Sirians. The Sirians cut them off from further aid. The base experiments got out of control and Nichols resorted to protesting after hundreds of researchers had been lost in time. Preston reported that by 1983 they were sending researchers with video cameras into the past and future with video cameras and filming history, resulting in I0,000 video tapes of the history of our planet! The videos went thousands of years into the past and beyond the year 6,000 into the future, using the 20 year cyclic biorhythm of the Earth. Von Neumann, considered the greatest mathematician in the world by Einstein, had found a way to send people through time without bursting into flames, going crazy, or melting into walls by using Sirian technology.

The llluminati has used the Phoenix Project technology to control the Pentagon and other military governments and the masses. This technology was used in the Iraq Kuwait war to kill over 100,000 Iraqis while only losing less than 40 Americans...a ratio considered utterly impossible in conventional warfare. The loss of American aircraft and ships was so ridiculously low, against the 4th largest Army in the world...that it defies rational explanation except for the Phoenix Project tech.

Secret government documents seen by our connections state that the Sirians and the Orions now have an alliance and have "already taken control of our planet." It is not a future invasion, The invasion has already taken place!

General McArthur, the hero of the war against Japan, publicly stated in the mass media that "the next war will be an interplanetary war." He said that to West Point graduates in 1955.

Star Wars is not a Reagan era military project against the Soviet Union. It was reportedly set up by the SirianlOrionlPentagon alliance against the friendly aliens that are coming here trying to help us spiritually. .Pleiadean alliance ...... and reportedly against the Dracos(a reptilian humanoid race from another galaxy on its way to invade the Earth and a major fear of all governments).

Tired of being a pawn in a galactic war? Tired of being programmed as to what you believe by a conspiracy that makes you believe you have freedom in order to persuade you that you don't? Tired of your landlords...Sirians...but can you move out of your planet? Tired of aliens who regard you like your scientists regard mice in the lab and aliens who view humans on Earth as a free slave labor force?

Time to wake up. Act fast. Do not procrastinate. Time running out! Want to know what to do? We don't have room here, Read Survival into the 21st Century by Viktorus...it is in most health food stores. He put the solution out 20 years ago and most people ignored it all. Read the Prism of Lyra. Medltate. Unconditional Love is the bottom line.

If you do not activate by 1996 it will be too late, Read, ET-lOl...the intergalactic visitors guide to planet. Earth for visiting aliens. It may seem like a comic book at first...but whoever wrote it was closer to the truth than anything you ever read in schools.

In 1992 I was asleep in my car in a vacant lot next to a big shopping center in Lahaina, too tired and too late for the long drive home upcountry. I was totally paralyzed by a bright red beam of light. It was so bright I could not even see out of my windows at the bright lights outside at the shopping center. I tried to reach for my keys and the ignition yet was was frozen and paralyzed. I tried to yell yet could not move my lips. And I later read this was all reported by thousands of people abducted by UFOs. I escaped. I'm perfectly all fight now. But most abductees end up scarred for life physically and mentally. I am not a psychologist. If you want to learn to escape do your homework like we did. Do not be distracted by too many videos, TV shows, parties, and gossiping sessions, Read. Do your homework! Read VIsitors From Within by Lisa Royalia.

The destiny of eternity is the eternal now. All your are you have been. Each second every thought and action creates your future. There are no accidents. Everything you experience is part of your script in the drama of life, and only you wrote your own screenplay. You cannot stop the cameras ln the middle of the movie. You are the movie. Look in the mirror of your life. For everything you see you created by your action or your inaction.

The Vision of the Future is the Reflection of the Past. Beyond Time and Space are the Dimensions of Eternity. To be free....you can do anything, you can be anything, you can create anything...then you can radiate everything you are.

The radiations of love are the secrets of the cosmos.

Steve Omar/En Mar
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Secret government documents seen by our connections state that the Sirians and the Orions now have an alliance and have "already taken control of our planet." It is not a future invasion, The invasion has already taken place!

This statement has substance
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You people need to open your minds.
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Oliver, are you religious?
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Are you bored, per chance, Oliver?
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Obviously a man wrote it
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Oliver, are you religious?


No, I do not believe in Jesus or god or of any other higher being.

People are brainwashed into believing in something that doesn't exist.

Let me put this example to you.

If a bloke was born on a desert island with no contact with the outside world and lived his life as a normal human being living off the land, just a simple life, then one day someone came along and told him that his whole life had been shaped by "god" and he had been created by a being that you cannot see or hear and nobody has any proof that exists he would laugh at you, think you are a crazy deluded fool which most religious people are anyway.

BRAINWASHED at a young age, it makes me angry now thinking about it. I used to HAVE to go to assembly at school and sing Christian hymns and bow my head, I was never given the option or asked if I actually believed in what I was doing because even at a young age I couldn't actually understand why we were bowing and asking forgiveness or whatever from a being I could not see.

It angers me.
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i respect your feelings towards this issue ollie.

however, ive been bought up not knowing anything different to that a higher being, God as i believe created the world and all things good. well something along those lines, impossible to sum up in a sentance
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If he created good then why is there evil? Surely someone so great would have stopped there being evil in the world.

Darwin - Evolution - Excellent.
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I consider myself fairly open minded but i find it hard to believe half of that.

there is no mention of the bomb plot to kill Hitler, nor is there an explanation to why Hitler kept the scientists who were working on the Nazi atomic bomb, hundreds of miles away from each other so they didn't know "too much"

it just seems like a hash of almost every conspriacy theory going, by someone who has seen too many X files episodes
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I consider myself fairly open minded but i find it hard to believe half of that.

there is no mention of the bomb plot to kill Hitler, nor is there an explanation to why Hitler kept the scientists who were working on the Nazi atomic bomb, hundreds of miles away from each other so they didn't know "too much"

it just seems like a hash of almost every conspriacy theory going, by someone who has seen too many X files episodes


I don't believe half of it, but the bible is a story that no one has any proof actually happened or the stories told were real, so why can't this be real?
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that is true, but i find that both the bible and this are just a little far fetched. although if it turns out that the aliens ARE in charge, i'll be the first to hold my hands up

i've got a good book all about the paranormal, and most of the people/events mentioned in that essay are in the book. except Hitler.
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Aliens created us, we are one big experiment and when we get to the stage of being to far advanced they will return and TRY and wipe us out, I will put up a fight at the last stand along with my friends Cybermonkey, 3Corsameal & Steve106GTi.
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I just read all this

The Montauk Project
and the Philadelphia Experiment



In 1990, while living in Las Vegas, I attended a lecture given about the Philadelphia Experiment at a local library. This presenter was Al Bielek and in about 2 and a half hours the story he told us about his experiences is one I will never forget. Even though some of his claims were utterly fantastic, I find that when there is something I read or hear and I can't shake it from my very being, to me, this is my own self telling me I have heard something important.
One of the topics that was covered by Mr. Bielek's talk was the Montauk Project where he mentioned how he met Preston Nichols and that they recognized each other as long lost brothers. I would highly recommend that if this topic interests you, please pick up the book done by Mr. Bielak and Brad Steiger called the PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT AND OTHER UFO CONSPIRACIES (Innerlight Publications, 1991).

I am includeding on this page some information that was posted to the snet mailing list which is excerpts from Preston Nichols book on the subject. I believe that this Project is another example of the breakthroughs made in modern technology as a result of contacts with extraterrestrials and that all the events describe in this book is absolutely true. After the information I received from snet is shared, I am also including some other interesting information I have which is from notes I took of Mr. Bielak's lecture in 1990.






An Excerpt from
Pryamids of Montauk:
Explorations in Conciouness
by Preston Nichols & Peter Moon (C) 1995
(Sky Books, Box 769, Westbury, New York 11590


The Montauk Project: Experiments in Time was released in June of l992 and has created a stir of intrigue and queries for more information ever since. Montauk Revisited: Adventures in Synchronicity sought to answer many of those questions and ended up providing an even more elaborate scenario that left us on the threshold of the occult and its relationship with the major mystery schools of Earth. The third book in the Montauk series, Pyramids of Montauk: Explorations in Consciousness digs deeper into the psyche of the Montauk phenomena and gives startling insights into the construction and drama of the universe. This prelude is designed to familiarize the first time reader who is new to the subject and also to reorient those who have read the first two books.

The origin of the Montauk Proiect dates back to 1943 when radar invisibility was being researched aboard the USS Eldridge. As the Eldridridge was stationed at the Philadelphia Navy Yard, the events concerning the ship have commonly been referred to as: the "Philadelphia Experiment". The objective of this experiment was to make the ship undetectable to radar and while that was achieved, there was a totally unexpected and drastic side effect. The ship became invisible to the naked eye and was removed from time and space as we know it! Although this was a remarkable breakthrough in terms of technology, it was a catastrophe to the people involved. Sailors had been transported out of this dimension and returned in a statc of complete mental disorientation and horror. Some were even planted into the bulkhead of the ship itself. Those who survived were discharged as "mentally unfit" or otherwise discredited and the entire affair was covered up. After the war, research continued under the tutelage of Dr. John von Neumann who had directed the technical aspects of the Philadelphia Experiment. His new orders were to find out what made the mind of man tick and why people could not be subject to interdimensional phenomena without disaster. A massive human factor study was begun at Brookhaven National Laboratories on Long Island, New York. It was known as the Phoenix Project.


Von Neumann was not only the inventor of the modern computer and a mathematical genius in his own right; he was able to draw on the enormous resources of the military industrial complex which included the vast data base of Nazi psychological rescarch that the Allies had acquired after World War II. It was against this background that von Neumann attempted to couple computer technology with sophisticated radio equipment in an attempt to link people's minds with machines. Over time, his efforts were quite successfull. After years of empirical experimentation, human thoughts could eventually be received by esouteric crystal radio receivers and relayed into a computer which could store the thoughts in terms of information bits. This thought pattern could in turn be displayed on a computer screen and printed out on a piece of paper. These principles were developed and the techniques were enhanced until a virtual mind reading machine was constructed. At the same time, technology was developed so that a psychic could think a thought that could be transmitted out a computer and potentially affect the mind of another human being. UItimately,the Phoenix Project obtained a superior understanding of how the mind functions and achieved the sinister potential for mind control. A full report was made to Congress who in turn ordered the project to be disbanded, at last in part for fear of having their own minds controlled.

Private concerns that helped to develop the project did not follow the dictate of Congress and sought out to seduce the militarv with the idea that this technology could be used in warfare to control enemy minds. A secret group with deep financial resources and some sort of military tie decided they would establish a new research facility at Camp Hero, a derelic Air Force Station at Montauk Point. New York. This locale was chosen because it housed a huge Sage radar antenna that emitted a frequency of approximately 400-425 Megahertz coincidentally the same band used to enter the consciousness of the human mind. ln the late '60s, the reactivation of Camp Hero began despite no funding from the military. By1972, the Montauk Project was fully underway with massive mind control experimentation being undertaken upon humans, animal and other forms of consciousness that were deemed to exist.

Over the years, the Montauk researchers perfected their mind control techniques and continued to delve further into the far reaches of human potential. By developing the psychic abililies of different personnel, it eventually got to the point where a psychic's thoughts could be amplified with hardware, and illusions could be manifested both subjectively and objectively. This included the virtual creation of matter. All of this was unparalleled in the history of what we call "ordinary human experience" but the people who ran the Montauk Project were not about to stop. They would reach even further into the realm of the extraordinary. Once it was discovered that a psychic could manifest matter, it was observed that it could appear at different times, depending on what the psychic was thinking. Thus, what would happen if a psychic thought of a book but thought of it appearing yesterday? It was this line of thinking and experimentation which led to the idea that one could bend time itself. After years of empirical research, time portals were opened with massive and outrageous experiments being conducted. The Montauk Project eventually, came to a bizarre climax with a time vortex being opened back to 1943 and the original Philadelphia Experiment.


None of this information would have come to light except for Preston B. Nichols, an electronic genius who one day discovered that he was an unwitting victim of the experiments. Working for a Long Island defense contractor, Preston war researching telepathy in psychics and found that persistent radio waves were being transmitted which were blocking the people he was working with. As a radio and electronics expert, Preston traced the radio signals directly to the Montauk Air Force Station and began exhaustive research that lasted over a decade. He acquired much of the equipment that was used during the Montauk Project and discovered to his dismay that many people from Montauk remembered him working there. It came to a culmination point when his cousin's husband insisted that he had been at Montauk. The two men almost came to blows over Preston's contention that he had never been at Montauk. Shortly after this argument, Preston began to get glimmers of a life he'd not previously been aware of. After talking to many different scientists and engineers who had some sort of association with the Montauk Project, Preston was able to put together what had happened. Somehow, he had survived on two separate time lines. On one, he worked at Montauk; on the other, he worked at a different location.

Preston's discoveries were confirmed when a strange man by the name of Duncan Cameron appeared at his door in 1985. Duncan had an uncanny aptitude for psychic research and eventually claimed to have been trained in this field by the NSA (National Security Agency). Without mentioning his own ordeal with Montauk, Preston took Duncan out to Montauk and was surprised to discover that he knew the entire layout of the base and remembered working there. Duncan was considered to be the primary psychic used in the time travel experiments and also remembered having been aboard the U.S.S. Eldridge during the original Philadelphia Experiment with his brother Edward (now recognized as Al Bielek).

According to the accounts of both Preston and Duncan, the Montauk Project culminated on August 12, 1983. A full blown time portal was fully functioning, but things were out of control and Duncan called together a group of people and decided to crash the project. While sitting in the Montauk Chair (a device connected to esoteric radio receivers studded with crystals that sent thoughts out of a giant transmitter), Duncan unleashed a giant beast from his subconscious which literally destroyed the project. The people who had been working on the base suddenly abandoned it. The air shafts and entrances to the major underground facility beneath the base were subsequent14- filled with cement. The full circumstances behind all ol this remain a mystery to this day.

Although an unauthorized video had been widely distributed regarding this story and several lectures had been given on the Montauk Project, no book was forthconing on the subject. Different writers had attempted to undertake the task but were either mentally incapable of dealing with the subject or were frightened off one way or the other. One science reporter for the New York Times started the project but backed off when he discovered to his own surprise that the Montauk Project was indeed quite real.


I came upon Preston while researching an elaborate sound system he had invented and soon found myself listening to a spectacular story that was at least better science fiction than I'd ever heard. After several months, I decided to undertake writing The Montauk Project: Experiments in Time. That book was written without consulting anyone other than Preston (who wanted to protect his sources). Rather than do a costly and time consuming investigation, my strategy was to get the information out as fast as possible and use the book to gather other clues that would corroborate or eventually prove the existence of this incredible story.

As The Montauk Project was published further research and events continued that would indeed establish that there was a real scenario behind the wild information Preston was talking about. These were chronicled in Montauk Revisited. but the most spectacular of all these corroborations was the discovery that the Montauk Project was inextricably linked to the most infamous occultist of all time: Aleister Crowley, often described as "the wickedest man in the world". According to reports, Crowley himself had used the practice of sexual magick in order to manipulate time itself, communicate with disembodied entities and to travel interdimensionally. It was even suggested that the interdimensional nature of the Philadelphia Experiment could have been the outward expression of Crowley's magical operations.

Thc startling proof of Crowley's association developed over a long period of time, but the discovery began to take shape in my very, first conversation with Preston when he seemed to blurt out of the blue that he was connected to the magician Aleister Crowley. In an earlier life, he believed that both hirnself and Duncan had been Preston and Marcus Wilson, respectively. These brothers were twins and had been the first manufacturers of scientific instruments in Great Britain. In addition to being friends of Aleister Crowley's family, they had also been involved in a joint business enterprise with them.

All of the above sounded like one more wild story, so I hegan to look for any references to the Wilsons in Aleister Crowley's various books. None turned up. To my surprisc though, I discovered that not only had Crowley visited Montauk (in 1918) but he had mentioned a "Duncan Cameron" in his autobiography. Subsequent to this, numerous instances of synchronicity between the Cameron and Crowley families were discovered, (these are detailed in Montauk Revisited but I still could not find any references to the Wilson brothers.


The meaning of these various synchronicities (between the Cameron name and Crowley) began to be explained when I found out about a woman who called herself "Cameron". She is perhaps most famous for having been married to Jack Parsons, the world's first solid fuel rocket scientist and a disciple of Crowley. Together, they had participated in an interdimensional activity known as the Babalon Working (a ceremonial act which included sex magick and has been hailed by some as thc greatest magical act of the century).

Through a further series of incredible synchronicitiesn I would fly to Southern California on other business and meet a friend of Cameron's quite by "accident". Discovering to my surprise that she lived in California, I soon found myself tellingher about the Philadelphia Experiment, the Montauk Project, and the Crowley/Cameron relationship. Much to my surprise, she informed me that her real name wasn't Cameron at all. It was Wilson!

lt now became obvious that Preston 's story about being a Wilson could not be discounted nor could his general credibility be denied. Perhaps more importantly, it revealed that some very strange correspondences were at work that had to do with interdimensionality.


I would receive an astonishing letter several months later that would close the case as regards whether or not the Wilson brothers had existed. It was from a man named Amado Crowley who claimed to be an illegitimate son of Aleister Crowley. Not only did he remember his father talking about the Wilson brothers. but he also provided clues which revealed that the odds of his lying ahout his parentage were nil.

Amado not only verified the existence of the Wilson brothers, he gave a spectacular account of his father's whereabouts on August 12, 1943 (the day of the Philadelphia Experiment). Aleister had directed a magical ceremony at Men-an-Tol in Cornwall, England where a large donut style rock lays upright in the water. According to Amado, Aleister put him through the hole in the rock whereupon a line of rough water ran from the coast of England to Long Island, New York.

For the most part, this is where the book Montauk Revisited ends'.

Amazing discoveries were made which showed that Preston was not off his rocker and that his general line of reasoning was valid. That is what this book was meant to do. Additionally, it showed that the forces which manifested the Montaok Project were deeply entrenched in the occult.

While Montauk Revisited did reveal a fascinating; web of intrigue that is unparalleled in certain respects, it did not deliver many final conclucions. But even though we were Ieft hanging at the edge of our seats with many unanswered questions, the book did accomplish something very important. It ushered us to the very threshold of the mystery schools, those secret organizations which have exsisted since timt immemorial and have sought to regulate our conciousness and personal freedom. It is at this point that we open the door to our current book: The Pyramids of Montauk: Explorations in Conciousness.





Interview with Al Bielek
( Connecting Link, Issue 19 )

From: rkrouse@netcom.com (Robert K. Rouse)
Subject: The Bielek Interview
Date: 16 Oct 93 08:10:40 GMT
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services
(408 241-9760 guest)


INTERVIEW: Al Bielek Conducted by Suanne Konicov
( from CONNECTING LINK issue 19 )


I have heard Al Bielek speak on the "Philadelphia Experiment " at several expos over the last two years. The material he presents is both astounding and appalling! Last September, at the Los Angeles Whole Life Expo, Al consented to do an interview for Connecting Link.

First you will read Al's account of the years leading up to the "Philadelphia Experiment. " Then, for the first time in any magazine, Al shares further information on other, less known experiments that continue to this day. Experiments that took place, and apparently, still do, at Montauk, Long Island.

Alfred Bielek was born on August 4, 1916 as Edward A. Cameron II, son of Alexander Duncan Cameron, Sr.


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AL BIELEK: My father (Alexander Duncan Cameron, Sr.) enlisted in the U.S. Navy prior to the U.S. entry into World War 1. He sired me and later A. Duncan Cameron, Jr. (May 1917), by different mothers.

Both Duncan and I, as half-brothers, were raised largely by Aunt Arnold in the Big House, still in West Islip, Long Island (father remained in the Navy until 1930, when he was retired with a pension). Since there was no lack of money (due to the Arnold/Constable Department Store fortune), Duncan Jr. and I (upon completion of high school) attended different universities. I went first to Princeton, and later to Harvard, obtaining a Ph.D. in physics. Duncan attended the University of Edinborough (Edinborough, Scotland), also obtaining a Ph.D. in physics, in the summer of 1939.

In September of 1939, both Duncan and I enlisted in the U.S. Navy-taking commissions as Lt. (J.G.) and then attending a 90-day training school for "Special Assignment" Navy personnel at Providence, Rhode Island.

With completion of training, we were both assigned to the Institute of Advanced Study (Princeton, N.J.) and directly to the ongoing "Project Invisibility."

With a completely successful test in 1940 (Brooklyn Navy Yard), the project was classified and renamed "Project Rainbow." Offices were set up in the Philadelphia Navy Yard. Duncan and I both shuttled back and forth between Philadelphia and Princeton.


In January 1941, we were sent to sea for sea duty on the U.S.S. Pennsylvania. We toured the Pacific until October 194 1, when the Pennsylvania was put in dry dock at Pearl Harbor. After taking leave in San Francisco and remaining there through December 1941, we were returned to the Institute early in January 1942. We worked on the project through 1942-Nikola Tesla dropped out in March 1942, and Dr. John Von Neumann took over at that time.

Duncan and I remained with the Project through the two tests in 1943 with the "Eldridge." The second test, August 12, 1943, was a total disaster, with many casualties and with Duncan disappearing permanently.

I remained with the Navy and married in late 1943. A son, Jess, was bom in February 1944. In July 1944, the family and I were transferred to Los Alamos, New Mexico, where I remained until July 2, 1947. At that time I was forcibly removed and separated from my family-never to see them again.


With charges of espionage placed against me, I expected a General Court Marshal. Instead I was transferred to Washington, D. C., whereupon charges were dropped and I was transferred to Montauk, L.I. military base (Fort Hero). From that point I was time shifted to 1983, back in the Phoenix Project. Once there, I was given a super brainwashing-all memory was removed. Additionally, I was age regressed (reduction of physical age and size from a 30-year old to approximately I year of age) and then, at a physical age of 1 year, sent back in time to 1927 to be plugged into a new family as a substitute for a dead son. This new family- the Bieleks- became my only known parents for over half a century!

With the advent of World War II, I was drafted into the Navy in 1945 (a second tour) as a seaman until 1946. After separating from the service, I tried a business venture (it failed) and went on to college (1949-1950) in Newark, New Jersey, and later to UCLA. A career followed as an electronic engineer (1958-1988), with retirement in 1988.

With the retum of my memories, in May 1986, of the Phoenix Project and of the Philadelphia Experiment (Project Rainbow) in January 1988, 1 have engaged in extensive lecturing and writing on the subject of The Philadelphia Experiment, its ramifications and the follow-on Project Phoenix, and the incredible consequences of the lockup through time.






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CONNECTING LINK: Tell me about the Phoenix Project.

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AL BIELEK: I'll deal with the final phase of the Phoenix Project and some of the aspects involved. I joined the project in 1953 as Al Bielek. I did what the book The Montauk Project* points out, the computer interface between the psychic chair used to steer the time tunnels in the final phase of the operations. Those earlier phases were very difficult-they didn't work right and they had many problems. But, I became involved as Al Bielek. Preston Nichols became involved as Preston Nichols, and Duncan Cameron became involved as Duncan Cameron, in his second body, not remembering anything about his involvement with the Philadelphia Experiment.
The project generated the time tunnels. People were able to travel in time and space and they did. But they also had other projects going on at Montauk. We still don't know all of them.

The technology for the tunnels was given to us by cooperative effort of alien groups, primarily the Orion group, which involved reptilians, a sub group called the Leverons. A technical group which provided most of the assistance, was the group from Sirius A. Very materialistic, scientific, people. Perhaps not a bad heart but misdirected, because they had very long-term contracts with the Orions to provide them with the technical knowledge and assistance they needed. And they were working with our govenment in secret to work out mindcontrol techniques and technology and pushing for a highly automated, technical society which would be much easier to control than it would be the way it is now. But we're approaching that rapidly.




(*The Montauk Project - Experiments in Time, Preston B. Nichols with Peter Moon. Sky Books, Box 769, Westbury, N.Y. 11590)


Also there were a lot of little greys that got underfoot. There were other groups there who took no part in the project, but were there as observersand the group from Antares, very human, very happy, jovial people. You couldn't tell them from a human spirit. In fact, I don't think you could anatomically either. Why they were there, I don't know. They didn't do anything. They were observers.
But the aliens provided the expertise, the hardware. They convened it from their computer data to IBM 360. That still didn't work and that's when other changes were made. I became heavily involved in making the time tunnel system work. It was alien technology. We did not have the theory. We did have the capability, the technological expertise to build the hardware, and we did, to their specifications.

ITT was a contractor. This was all under "Black Card" clearance level, which is about the highest level of clearance there is, and most people don't even know it exists. And this means, in essence, that it is such a deep Black Hole project that all the records, everything connected with it, is buried in a black vault and nobody has access to this without having the proper clearance and a need to know. This includes purchasing departments who buy the hardware for these projects. The records for the sales, purchase, everything, buried in the black vault. So nobody can find it. This is why they call it a Black Hole project. There are many, many of these. This is one of them.


The tunnels became fully operational about '77 after many changes. About '79 on they got all the results they wanted. Until August 12,1983, at night, when the project was deliberately crashed. Sabotaged from the inside. That's covered in the book. But prior to that what they did was unbelievable.

One of the uses of the Phoenix Project, in the use of Time Tunnels, was to provide backup to the Martian Colonies. The Martian Colonies have been there since the early '70s. We went publicly to the moon in 1969. Actually the Germans were there in 1947. And we were there in 1962 with a joint U.S.-Russian expedition. They went to Mars, May 22, 1962. The movie, Altenative 3, done by Anglia Television, April 1, 1977, which is available in the underground, outlines it completely. It shows the actual transmission. The color shots by TV back from Mars, as this Explorer moved and landed. We have colonies there in Mars from the late '60's or maybe early '70's onward. They found many artifacts there. There is more than one wrecked city. And of course the famous face on Mars, the Pyramids and that whole complex that Hoagland (Dr. Richard] has talked about and gone public on. There are two videos on this plus his book.

What they found on the surface indicated there was much more there that they could not find that was buried. And they had not brought with them, and did not have the capabilities of heavy earth-moving equipment on Mars at that time. They didn't have any Cats. Big tractors and that sort of stuff. They were too heavy to bring up.


So, a request went by radio back to Earth, "We believe there are underground installations here. We've seen openings that are sealed. Can you guys down there tell us what to do?" Well, the information went to Montauk, to the Phoenix Project. And they sent back information, "Well, give us some coordinates on the surface of Mars where you think these locations are." And they did. And they said, "We'll investigate it." And they did. Because they could go anyplace with the tunnel, they went to Mars to the coordinates.

And first they didn't send anybody. They ran a tunnel into what they thought might be an underground area and rather than risk killing anybody by burying them in solid rock, they sent a camera, a remote-view camera. We found out there was an actual cavern and it was safe and then Montauk sent people. Duncan and I were in that crew. The first crew that went, directed by Montauk to explore the underground of Mars. It's not mentioned in the book who went, but we went. And there were probably others. We went several times. We found all kinds of artifacts. We found a still functional underground lighting system, a power system. We found it and turned it on and it still worked. No evidence of life. A lot of artifacts, files, records, religious artifacts, statuary, all stored like it was a store room. A huge store room.






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CONNECTING LINK: Was the written material in English?

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AL BIELEK: No. It was in another language. It was not English. Duncan was able to translate some of it. I saw it, but I was not able to translate it. And a lot of the records and stuff were brought back. And eventually Duncan and I decided to take some clandestine trips on our own. (After one trip is made, it's all recorded. All the coordinates and information which are required to operate the system is recorded on magnetic tape. And you can take this tape, plug it into the computer, and without going through the psychic and the chair number*, you can open the tunnel to the same location because the computer contains all the celestial data-all the Earth movements, solar system movements, all in the computer-so that there is complete reference to the new location where the planet would be. And "plug" the tunnel in exactly the same location.) So we went twice on our own for our own little explorations.





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CONNECTING LINK: And no one was manning the machine for you back home?

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AL BIELEK: We tumed the equipment on,we knew how to do it. And nobody was there. On the second trip, we were discovered because, there are automatic recorders that tell how many times this equipment is used, and for what purpose, and what dates, times and so forth. Automatic complete time, event recorders. So we were caught when we came back. We were pulled off the project and slapped on the wrist. "You're not going to do that anymore," and one of the people who was involved, a senior scientist, broke our team up. Duncan and I didn't do much of anything together after that but further explorations were made by others. What they found, we don't know.
Certain people had been chosen in advance, such as myself and Duncan and Preston to be part of this program. And the level of brainwashing varied. Duncan was heavily programmed, brainwashed to do what he did there because he was not being used for his technical expertise. I was brainwashed to some extent, and Preston, very heavily.


But we were all given what you'd call the debriefing after this whole project crashed and was formally declared over on January 1, 1984. We all got our debriefings which means your mind was erased of everything you ever did on the project. And they hoped it would hold indefinitely.

It didn't. The reason it did not hold indefinitely was because the site was not destroyed. It's still there. It was tumed over to New York State Parks Commission on January I of 1986 or sometime in January of 1986 to become part of the park that already exists out there. The State has never torn anything up. They've never tom a building down. They've never opened it up as a park.

They knocked the fences down so people can go through there and hike and camp if they want, during the day. They cannot stay ovenight without a special permit from Montauk Township. That's not allowed and the park rangers go in to shuttle them out.

But the property remains unconverted. Going in there, as I did, first in August of '85 by the invite of Preston (I took Duncan with me), none of us knew, at that time, that we had been part of the Montauk Project. Preston, as a surplus electronics dealer, had been out there salvaging equipment previous to this trip in August.






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CONNECTING LINK: That's where the book, The Montauk Project starts.

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AL BIELEK: Right. And he didn't know that he had been involved. He had no recollection. This August trip [Preston] took us out and said "You're both sensitives. Let's see what you pick up when we go out there." He says, "I know you've never been there before." He didn't know, honestly, at that point. So we went out and we sensed these terrible vibes on the base, that something awful had been going on there. We sensed this monster, who showed up at the end of the story, that helped in the process of the destruction of this station.
They [Preston and Duncan] of course, had the advantage, being as I was only visiting, and went back to Phoenix. They were there in repeatedly, and they became aware of their involvement in the project much earlier then I did.

I went back [to Montauk] in May of '86 and made another visit along with a group from Phoenix sponsored by, I believe, Senator Barry Goldwater. Because I told this group, whom I knew from December of '85, about the project and they came out to make an investigation of possible diversion of federal funds from a regular federal project to an illegal project. They were looking for proof. And that was their modus operandi, their reason for getting passes from the State of New York, from the Parks Commission, to go on the base, into locked buildings. There were still some locked. And find what proof, if any, as to whether this was a diversionary project using federal funds.

We know now no federal money was involved. Major investigations have proven this. But in the process we took a lot of pictures, and in that same visit that time of May '86 my memory of Montauk started to come backbecause I was visiting the site, the scene of the crime, if you will.






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AL BIELEK: This was the trigger. The same for Duncan, same for Preston. So my memories came back. I knew then I was part of it. And they've been coming back ever since because it doesn't all come back at once in a rush.
It comes back in chunks and pieces, depending upon what the triggers are that bring it back. But once you've punched a hole through the wall, it's like the finger in the dike. The hole starts expanding and it keeps expanding and eventually it will all come through.

So I knew, finally, I was heavily involved at an administrative and engineering level in many projects. Duncan was involved in more than one project.


Preston was the technical station master after Matthew Zaret. Professor Zaret was removed in 1980. Really, he left at my suggestion, but they wouldn't let him loose, so he went to the parallel project at Brentwood, Long Island, where he died. Preston took over as the technical director, doing all of the management. He designed and built all of the RF transmitters and pulse modulator systems-anything dealing with RF* and transmitters he is an expert at. And that was his expertise and his normal working job, as he was employed by an aerospace company in Long Island for fifteen years until he was fired two summers ago. He was fired but they covered it. It was because he knew too much and talked too much in the open, had recovered too many of his memories and was talking about information at the USPA [United States Psychotronic Association] conferences, more than once, which the govemment didn't want made public. So they pulled his clearance first, and then they canned him in July of '90 while at a USPA conference. He came back to no job, He was told, "You're finished, pick up your stuff and leave." And his boss didn't even know why. His boss didn't fire him. It was govemment manipulation.

He was an expert at designing transmitters, high-power transmitters, for radar, for whatever. In this case, the Montauk Project, for the final stages of a special Amplitron, which is shown in the book-there is a photo of it. It was designed and built specially for the project by Raytheon Electric in Goleta, Califomia.** I remember going out there to approve the first shipment of tubes. They were very, very expensive and specially built. They cost several million dollars apiece. They ordered thousands. So you can see why the cost of this project went out of sight. Capacitors for the pulse-forming networks and the modulator were also specially designed to very rigid specifications. They finally got somebody to build them. And everybody in the industry except one tumed them down. They finally were able to build them to the specifications, and they sold them to the govemment in matched sets of fifty at the very small sum of twenty-five thousand dollars for each and every capacitor. And they had a hundred on each station. A full set of fifty for two transmitters, operational, and a full set of spares. So that was two and a half million dollars right theretimes 25 stations!

They ran out of gold. (The project was begun with 10 billion dollars in g old. The story of the gold is documented in the book Nazi Gold.) They ran out of money. So ITT picked up the tab.


(*Radio frequency electromagnetic transmissions-especially related to radar.)



(**The R & D facility. Production was at Weymouth, MA - over 4,000 amplitrons were produced.)




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AL BIELEK: They had cooperation from the ET's. See, they had a crashed UFO which was deliberately crashed, by agreement with Hitler, by a certain group of Pleiadians. It was loaded with technology. And the reason for crashing it was that the German High Command, if they were pushed, could say, "Yeah we found a crashed saucer in the Bavarian Alps" or some such place, "and we recovered it, took it apart and analyzed the technology."
It certainly wasn't made public. But the remains of that craft were found near Peenemunde after the war was over. This was the rocket testing base for the Germans and where Wernher Von Braun operated along with his crew. When the war was over, he deliberately moved his group to the west, to the Americans. And another group was captured by the Russians, including, I believe, his professor, Herman Oberth. Of course that is where the Russians got a head start on rocketry over the U. S. -they had the professor who taught Wernher Von Braun!

There may have been someone else because the Russians captured quite a number of intelligencia out of Germany when Berlin came under their control. So the war actually received a huge boost, technologically from the Pleiadians. So far as deals are concerned, Roosevelt made the first one in the U.S. in 1934, not with the Pleiadians, who offered to help the U.S. get out of the doldrums of the huge depression we were in, but he chose a different group for whatever personal reasons we don't know. Called the K Group or the Kondroshkin. It tums out, so far as I can determine today, they are the bluegreys. Not the little greys, but a larger group called the blue-greys.


In any case, he made his deal with them. They made an offer to provide a whole new technological base for the United States atomic energy in 1938. Roosevelt at first approved and then he tumed it down because the military told him, "Uh uh. We can't control it from beginning to end. We don't know what they are going to do with it and how they may manipulate us in the end." So they [the K-Group] disappeared in the woodwork.

In 1943 came the Philadelphia Experiment and the lock-up with the Phoenix Project, ripping a huge hole in space-time. This was deliberately done by the aliens at the '83 end to put a rift in the fabric of space-time so large numbers of aliens and ships could come through. They all had time travel capabilities, but the rift was needed to get the large ships through and make a mass invasion of the United States, and later Europe, of aliens (primarily greys) and other types. When they landed at Edwards Air Force Base in the Muroc Dry Lake as well as another air baseI'm leaving a lot of details out-the govemment already knew all about the aliens being on this planet. [They knew] since 1887 with the first investigating commission under Grover Cleveland.


In any case, they knew that they were here, but then they came en masse. We were confronted by a technology that we couldn't counter, we couldn't handle it, we didn't know what to do about it. So the agreement with Eisenhower and his advisors was to sign a treaty with them, a noninterference treaty and get what technology we could from them-make some kind of agreement. We'd buy time and see what we could do about it later.

That was the basis of the agreement Because of that, very large numbers of aliens came in and eventually became part of the Phoenix Project. They were planning ahead. We didn't know what they were up to. And I'm looking at this in retrospect, not what we knew then. They were planning ahead. They knew what they were doing. They maneuvered and manipulated the Phoenix Project. They did not expect it to crash then. I am sure they anticipate its continuing for another decade, at least into the '90's.

However, because certain people suddenly, if you will pardon the expression, "saw the light," got religion, or whatever it is that hit them, Duncan, and a few others, conspired to destroy the station. And the reason for it was that they were fed up with what they saw as all the evils perpetrated there.

I knew about it. I decided that I would not be part of the destructive plot. I said, "Yes, there is a lot wrong here, but we've already straightened a lot of the mess out and we can straighten out the rest and continue this as a research tool," as John VonNeumann (who is still alive today by the way) wanted. He said, "It's a research tool; we need it." Because of the time travel (remote viewing) capabilities, he saw things coming in the future which could cause very serious threats to the United States and the World.


But, these people had their way. They put a special implant into Duncan's head so that when we, as the original Duncan Cameron and myself as Edward Cameron, came through from the Philadelphia Experiment and went through the station (for twelve hours) we were retumed to the Elderidge; then the Elderidge retumed to '43. At that point, that phase was over and it completed the time loop.

Then the word went out, "Now is the time" and Duncan released this thing from his subconscious into the machine. The transmitter (which already by that time had its own personality) created this big monster, solidly in 3-D, twelve to fifteen feet high and [it] literally came out of the subconscious. It went around smashing buildings and people and it was discovered trying to break into the radar tower. The tower was much too strong for it to break into. The only way to stop it was to destroy the transmitter, and that's what was done. And it faded out into some other reality. It was photographed in May of 1986.


But the final chapter on Montauk was not written. We discovered a month ago [Aug., 1992) that Montauk was reactivated. And that's what I wanted to get in here. We do not know who is doing it. We have seen the evidence. New coax cable runs, new power transformers being put in on the power substation. The new ones are labeled "non PCB." Because now the law is that transformers can no longer be filled with PCB as a cooling agent: if they blow up or break open it's an extreme hazard to the environment. So they use an environmentally safe coolant-a different form of liquid in the transformers and they have big labels on them that say non-PCB. I have pictures of this, from my trip a month ago. There are new coax cable runs around the base which are brand new.

The radar tower now has a new steel door where it used to be wide open and you could walk in. They put a new steel door in with double padlocks so you can't get in . The back garage entrance door for trucks and delivering heavy stuff is now sealed from the inside. And we found other evidence that shows that it's being reactivated.

Preston has been approached by the govemment to become the director of the New Montauk project, And they told him they also want Duncan as part of it. There are new workers there. There are new entrances to the underground. One person we know has been through the outer door and there is an inner locked door with a red light on it. You, have to have special access badges or you'll be stopped.

We did not attempt to go in because we didn't feel we wanted to risk it. And we do not know where the project may go, but we suspect that one of the goals is to extend the time rift ('43 to '83) onward to '93 because '93 is a subnode point in the 20-year cycle, and August, '93 will be a very critical area again and they probably want the station activated before August of '93. That's what we feel technically they are up to. But what the end purpose is for we are not sure. It may be to extend the time tunnel, that is, the time rift, for purposes of their own.


There are a lot of things on this project we don't know. Some of the things they used it for we still don't know. We have never had access to the classified records of Lincoln Labs at M.I.T. (Cambridge, MA).

They have not been able to take Duncan and myself out because of the fact that we help hold the whole time rift stable. It will stabilize itself by the year 2003 unless they reopen it. Then you have another can of worms to deal with.

They just don't realize what risks they are running in reopening that thing. The rift was stabilized in '63, or this North American continent would now be under salt water. Not from the year 2000, but it would have been in 1963. There was a special project created, now well covered, to restabilize the reverse time wave which would have hit the forward one in '63 at the node point and wrecked this continent.

It was due to the fact that they had this time rift, and because it was unstable in the way it was generated (like a standing wave in an RF transmission line). You may not understand RF theory, but you get a reverse wave in an unterminated or improperly terminated line. Time is a wave as well. You can have a forward time wave and you can have a reverse time wave. If the two of equal amplitude hit each other at a node point, which is the earth synchronization point, like August 12th, 1963, they can be extremely disruptive, physically, to the physical structure of the earth.


And being that this project took place in the United States, on Long island, those who looked at it in theory said it would have caused an extreme disruption of geological matter, pulling it out of the earth, in the North American Continent. It would have wound up wrecking the tectonic plates, and the North American continent, other than the mountains, would have wound up under salt water-500 to 700 feet of it by estimate.

It didn't happen, obviously-we're here. The '63 project, "Atlanticus Not Revisited," was successful in damping that reverse time wave. This is an area of science and technology and physics which most people know nothing about.

We hope that if the project is revived that it will be used properly rather than improperly as it was in the past, though there were some very good uses for the Montauk Project. In a larger view, it might be better left buried. Only time will tell what will happen, and whether or not I will play any part with it. They have not asked me. They don't want to. All we can do is hope for the best for the future and that the mistakes of the past will be understood and that somehow the future will come out the better for it in spite of the problems we know we face.





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Al Bielak's Lecture
( Las Vegas, December, 1990,
recorded by Joshua Shapiro )



Mr. Bielak said that he and Preston were the two sailors that were running some special equipment on the Ethridge, the U.S. Navy ship which was turned invisible in 1943, known as the Philadelphia Experiment, since the boat was docked in Philadelphia. He claims that the movie, "The Philadelphia Experiment" is essentially correct except when he and his brother jumped over the ship, when it was in hyperspace, they did not land in the future in the desert of Nevada, but at the secret base in Montauk, NY in 1984. For you see, he claims, the Government tried the same experiment 41 years later, on the same date and time, and opened up a hole in time between the two eras. If this hole was not closed, then our world could have been destroyed.
Mr. Bielak stated that his brother decided to stay in the future, and he agreed to go back to 1943, to close the hole by destroying the equipment onboard the Ethridge. He did accomplish this task and the holes were closed. He said that in 1984 in Montauk, that through contact with the Aliens, they had a time tunnel that existed there. Also he stated that a UFO which was witnessing the experiment in 1943 was caught up in the hole or energy vortex and also transported to the future.

After his experience on the Ethridge, he claims that he worked with people related to the development of the nuclear bomb but he objected to the purpose of how the Government wanted to use such technologies. He stated that the Government saw him as a liability and that they would have killed him except that his molecular structure was connected with the two holes in time in 1943 and 1984. Therefore, they believed if they killed him, it could cause a ripple effect that would reopen these holes and thus used the technology they had received from the aliens, to regress him to a baby and sent him back in time to 1927 where he was exchanged for the son of the Bielak family.

Now he states his brother, who stayed in the future, became quite fascinated with the time tunnel at Montauk. Somehow his brother got caught in the time tunnel, some experiment, and again, they had the same situation where if he died, his death could cause the holes in time to re-open. So again, using some strange technology of the aliens, they were able to take the soul of his brother and place it in the body of his father's third son. Thus Preston again forgot who he was although he still had the same father.


The last piece of information I found quite fascinating in Mr. Bielak's talk was a discussion about time travel and parallel universes. He stated that using the equipment they had developed, they were able to identify at least four other parallel earths (similar to the TV program on Fox called "Sliders") and in one of these parallel earths, Germany won World War II. This was quite interesting because I had just read a science fiction book by James Hogan that was based on this idea that people could travel in time and go back in time to intervene in key events to change the world which produced a new timeline or a parallel earth). Apparently, how the Universe preserves order and prevents a paradox from happening is it generates alternative time lines.

What I mean by this, is say I go back in time and kill my grandfather. How could this be possible? If my grandfather died, I would never be born to kill him. What apparently happens in this case, is that the timeline I left, continues as is, with no changes except that I no longer exist there as by generating this new timeline, I forfeit my chance to return to my own timeline. When I killed my grandfather, a new timeline starts minuses my grandfather but I must remain in this altered timeline.


Lastly, I attended a party in Las Vegas that Mr. Bielak was at, and he talked about some other interesting subjects. First he stated that the so-called "Grey" Aliens do exist and that we have received some technology from them and that they do have a plan to make the earth their new home. Also he stated that the Greys are following the guidance of the Serpent race, the Repetilian race from Orion. That the Orions have great trouble living on the earth because our environment is not hospital for them and that the Greys are helping to prepare the way for the Orions, who have basically enslaved their race. He stated that there have been battles fought in space between a Confederation of Planets and the Greys and ETs from Orion.

Next he talked about what has happened when the time tunnel was used at Montauk to go into the future. He stated that for some reason, they could never penetrate the years 2011-2013. He also stated that the technology is so good, they could pull you out, ship you to another time period and bring you back so fast, that it would appear as no time had passed yet you could have aged several months or years because of the time you spent in the other time. He claimed that this happened to him on a number of occassions. Lastly, he shared that when they were able to see the future, past 2013, it appeared as if there was no life living on the earth.

The part of his information which he shared about not being able to enter the 3 year timeframe I found quite interesting and started to ponder about this. Then inspiration (divine) struck me to explain why this might be possible. I remember reading a science fiction novel by Asimov about a group of people, supposedly existing in our future, who's work was to travel backwards and forward in time, making minor alterations to make the earth the best possible planet or place to live, at least in their opinion. There was a group in their very far future, who knew they were doing this and totally blocked the time travelers ability to enter their time period. My explanation for Mr. Bielak statement about 2011-2013 is that if we are using a physical device to travel (whether it be via traveling a distance in the current time or traveling in time) that in order to be able to reach your destination, that place or time must be in a vibrational harmony with the place you are leaving. In other words, the laws of physics, the vibration of matter, must be in alignment. Therefore, I conclude that in 2011-2013, the earth will shift its vibrational motion and move into a new dimension which makes this time not in sync with our own.


As I have been pursuing this theory, I have discovered that a number of prophecies seem to point to something significant happening in this timeframe as well. I have heard both the Aztec and Mayans have a prophecy about something happening during these years, a transformation of sorts. Also the Great Pyramid, if reading the prophecy on the special wall near the King (or is it the Queen) chambers, the tunneling leading up to this room, also has some reference to 2011. Also, the Mayan said their calendar ended in 1987 and 26 years later is 2013. Numbers which are a multiple of 13, 26 or 52 are considered sacred numbers to the Mayans.
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Originally posted by gianluigi
Oliver, are you religious?


No, I do not believe in Jesus or god or of any other higher being.

People are brainwashed into believing in something that doesn't exist.

Let me put this example to you.

If a bloke was born on a desert island with no contact with the outside world and lived his life as a normal human being living off the land, just a simple life, then one day someone came along and told him that his whole life had been shaped by "god" and he had been created by a being that you cannot see or hear and nobody has any proof that exists he would laugh at you, think you are a crazy deluded fool which most religious people are anyway.

BRAINWASHED at a young age, it makes me angry now thinking about it. I used to HAVE to go to assembly at school and sing Christian hymns and bow my head, I was never given the option or asked if I actually believed in what I was doing because even at a young age I couldn't actually understand why we were bowing and asking forgiveness or whatever from a being I could not see.

It angers me.


This also used to piss me off

Also people that "thank god" for curing there illness or making them happy, bullshit.............total bullshit

I wasn't even christened because my mum and dad don't believe in any of it, i feel special
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its wanky doodle

its the weak people with nothing that invent these superior beings, imagine how stupid people were when these stories came about (bible etc)

people thought the earth was flat and that was AFTER all the man who died and came back to life stuff, parting the sea etc

shouldn't need proving these days, people must know its bull
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
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Originally posted by gianluigi
Oliver, are you religious?


No, I do not believe in Jesus or god or of any other higher being.

People are brainwashed into believing in something that doesn't exist.

Let me put this example to you.

If a bloke was born on a desert island with no contact with the outside world and lived his life as a normal human being living off the land, just a simple life, then one day someone came along and told him that his whole life had been shaped by "god" and he had been created by a being that you cannot see or hear and nobody has any proof that exists he would laugh at you, think you are a crazy deluded fool which most religious people are anyway.

BRAINWASHED at a young age, it makes me angry now thinking about it. I used to HAVE to go to assembly at school and sing Christian hymns and bow my head, I was never given the option or asked if I actually believed in what I was doing because even at a young age I couldn't actually understand why we were bowing and asking forgiveness or whatever from a being I could not see.

It angers me.


I couldnt agree more with you Ollie........that is superb
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well they arent really "Your" feelings.. cos it looked like you kinda stole that from somewhere else

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