Butler
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Following on from last nights engine thread. Just been wondering really what options are available for the x16 and c16 engine, bar ram-air, TB's, Turbos, superchargers, excluding the obvious minors, what can you do to up the power, what do you reckon potentially the 1.6 is capable of BHP wise? 
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Dave A
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only real options are a new inlet such as mantzel, dbilas or lexmaul
or throttle bodies.
superchargers and turbos are far too difficult, expensive, unreliable and they wont perform as well as throttle bodies
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corsa_godfather
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so u want to know what u can do to a x16 or c16 except turbo,tb,supercharge,ram air???
nothing much really.
head work,cams,pistons,manifold
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James R
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Nitrous
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jr
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any H's hit 165nhp i think whitout tb's but with mantzel, cams etc
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Butler
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa_godfather
so u want to know what u can do to a x16 or c16 except turbo,tb,supercharge,ram air???
nothing much really.
head work,cams,pistons,manifold
To put it simply, yes  Weve established they are lighter and better on the track but flat out they suffer, just wondering how it could be made up really
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Dave A
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but head work,cams,pistons,exhaust manifold are wasted without a new inlet or tb's
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James R
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GRP A enignes make 140BHP on std inlet
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Butler
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
any H's hit 165nhp i think whitout tb's but with mantzel, cams etc
In thick persons terms please?
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Robin
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agreed with corsa808
then you can get up to 260bhp with deep pockets
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Dave A
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quote:
Originally posted by j1400
GRP A enignes make 140BHP on std inlet
how? whats the spec of a group a engine?
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by Butler
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Originally posted by jr
any H's hit 165nhp i think whitout tb's but with mantzel, cams etc
In thick persons terms please?
with Mantzel box, cams etc, and hs engine made 165bhp (he thinks)
better? lol
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Dave A
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quote:
Originally posted by robmarriott
agreed with corsa808
then you can get up to 260bhp with deep pockets
if only it was that easy
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Butler
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quote:
Originally posted by robmarriott
agreed with corsa808
then you can get up to 260bhp with deep pockets
thats some crazy shoot, roben did you like my shop with morrettes of muppets car? 
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James R
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GRP a is open bar the inlet and exhaust manifolds.
so you're talking management, pistons cams lifters headwork etc..
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa808
quote:
Originally posted by robmarriott
agreed with corsa808
then you can get up to 260bhp with deep pockets
if only it was that easy
i know, but it has been done
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corsa_godfather
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so basically....
Mantzel,
Cams,
Pocketed pistones,
Head work (gas flowed etc),
aftermarket management
vierner pulleys
Nos?
4 branch manifold
de cat
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Butler
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forget nos, nos if for cheaters
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jr
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Anydy H was at 215bhp before it broke (due to SBD valve springs i belive) swindon got involved and i think it was running that power again reliably
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jr
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quote:
Originally posted by Butler
forget nos, nos if for cheaters
you could quite willingly call me that when i run a 14.something 1/4 mile in a 1.6
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Butler
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did you use nos?
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Dave A
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quote:
Originally posted by robmarriott
quote:
Originally posted by corsa808
quote:
Originally posted by robmarriott
agreed with corsa808
then you can get up to 260bhp with deep pockets
if only it was that easy
i know, but it has been done
with 6-7k thrown at it
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jr
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quote:
Originally posted by Butler
did you use nos?
no, i was just using a example 
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Robin
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i said deep pockets
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jr
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and nos is a brand name  it like referfing to trainers as NIKE all the time
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