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nik
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7th Dec 05 at 13:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Recently bought an old lamp however it doesnt work because the original double pole single throw switch was broken.

Have bought a new single pole single throw switch (pictured) and wired it in but the lamp still doesn't work. Is my wiring ok? (excuse the pics!) or shall I get it properly looked at?

I have swapped bulbs etc so it can't be anything daft like that Cheers







Starting to get on my nerves!


[Edited on 07-12-2005 by nik]
Rob_Corsa
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7th Dec 05 at 18:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I cant tell from that picture whats going off mate, can ya draw it?

Rob

[Edited on 07-12-2005 by Rob_Corsa]
Ben
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7th Dec 05 at 18:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yes can you draw it.

and why you got a double pole on it ? is it just a table lamp? or a fixed fitting?
nik
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7th Dec 05 at 18:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Its a floor standing lamp pictured below. Appears the wiring is correct as I thought (must have been a dodgy connection!) as the lamp works now, however only two of the three lights work, if I screw the 3rd bulb in really tight it comes on but one of the others dims and the other goes out all together?

Ben
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7th Dec 05 at 18:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

what size lamps you putting in it? is there a transformer?
nik
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7th Dec 05 at 18:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

40 watt bulbs, 13amp fuse, no transformer just the single pole switch. Not sure if thats got something to do with it and I need the double pole switch to run the 3 lamps?
Ben
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no it just wouldnt come on , cant see why you would need a double pole switch. and a 13a fuse is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too big . you sure you have all of them connected up right? should go from switch (live) and N up to first lamp , then down to 2nd n 3rd and N back up otherside. only way i can think is you hae wired them in series but should still brighen up , are they warm? and there def not a transformer?


why have you had it in bits anyhow ?
nik
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7th Dec 05 at 19:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Cheers Ben...

In bits because I bought it with the broken switch hence needed to sort it out. What size fuse should I be using then? I think the wiring is correct too so it's a bit weird to say the least! If you take one of the bulbs out then the middle one will work just wont work while the other two are switched on - then starts to blow bulbs!

[Edited on 07-12-2005 by nik]
Ben
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so is it how it were before? if so cut out switch and put it in a connecter and plug it in .

1amp if you have one , or a 3a

i think you have a loose connection , the outer bit on the lamp is N.

if you have them in all 3 and take the middle one do two go out?
nik
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7th Dec 05 at 19:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah the wiring from the black bit (bottom of the lamp poles) is as exactly as it was when I got it. I've only touched the wires in the 2nd pic down - two into the new switch and wired the other two (purple/blue) together.

You reckon I should ditch the switch and just use the mains to turn off/on? Will change the fuse tomorrow too.
nik
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7th Dec 05 at 19:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just removed the middle bulb and nothing happened, only goes weird if I screw it in really tight - one goes out, and the middle bulb comes out but very dimly. Remove it and both come back on
Ben
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no i just wondered if the switch were fucked , no dont get rid of switch , if the 3rd is going out when you take the 2nd out then its in series .

can i just ask , you have a evo 6 and a 350z and you are fucking about with a £10 old light?
nik
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7th Dec 05 at 19:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It's worth a bit more than £10 Only messing with it because it looks ace in my lounge and is worth a few £100 quid Haven't a clue what to do from here, no electricians want to know! have rung a few today
Ben
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7th Dec 05 at 21:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just check they are all tight connections
nik
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7th Dec 05 at 21:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Will do cheers mate failing that will have to get someone to look at it, might be easier to have the thing rewired really!
Ben
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7th Dec 05 at 21:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if you post it to me ill fix it and post it back if you cover the costs
nik
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Cheers Ben - will bear it in mind mate, will need to see about packing it up as it's fairly large. I do have an account with TNT though so if I can get it boxed safely it should be fine appreciate your help, top notch!
Jamie Walby
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7th Dec 05 at 22:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

is it plugged in? if so is the switch on?
nik
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7th Dec 05 at 22:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Funnily enough yes, sadly though you have failed to amuse me. Go home.
RichyCorsa
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7th Dec 05 at 22:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

that aint wired right

1 wire from each light should be wired straight to Netural

and the other wire from each light shoul be wired to live that goes though the switch

so take one wire off each of the light pairs and connect it them together to neutral (so 1 brown from light 1, 1 black from light 2 and 1 black from light 3)

then take the other wires from each light and connet them together to live though the switch (so 1 brown from light 1, 1 black from light 2 and 1 black from light 3)

the it should work fine and will be safe .. and like ben said it needs a 3 amp fuse

hope it helps
Richy


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8th Dec 05 at 08:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

what you wanna do is connect the black to red, red to blue and blue to bits
nik
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8th Dec 05 at 08:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Cheers Bart, does this look right?



[Edited on 08-12-2005 by nik]
Ben
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yes but rather than using a connecter just wire them in series (link from one to the other to the other)

 
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