Brett
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I've been having an argument with this guy tonight...
At firs the conversation was him telling me he's getting a K&N induction kit for his vectra. So I said "get a pipercross will sound nicer".
He then went on to tell me that K&N had massive power gains 
He is a trainee mechanic and his teacher had told him a K&N induction kit adds a 1/3 (third) of a turbos power to a car!!?
Of course this raises the many questions, but he stuck to his guns that his college teacher was right and a K&N induction kit adds a third of turbo power...
So to try and beat him I asked what PSI the imaginery turbo was running that the K&N was getting a third from, confusing i know 
Can you guys post some stuff in here to just blow his teachers collocks out of the water as it's really pissin me off 
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Gavin
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Registered: 3rd Apr 02
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dear lord 
well it made me laugh....1/3 of the power.... u best tell the LET lads about this little mod that can give them this extra bhp 
[Edited on 25-11-2005 by Gavin]
pew pew pew pewwwww
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Brett
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quote:
Originally posted by Gavin
dear lord
well it made me laugh....1/3 of the power.... u best tell the LET lads about this little mod that can give them this extra bhp
[Edited on 25-11-2005 by Gavin]
i know
this is the other odd thing...
I said "so if i add an induction kit to my car that means i'll have 1 & 1/3 turbo power "
and he said "no, it doesnt work like that!"
He was getting really wound up at this point
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Ian
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Registered: 28th Aug 99
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33% more power from an induction kit.
Even K&Ns own marketing does not claim that.
"We have generally designed these kits to increase horsepower and torque between 5 to 10%."
Section 3 - http://www.knfilters.com/faq.htm
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Ian
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Registered: 28th Aug 99
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Or sorry maybe I misunderstood this guy.
He means like an XE is 150 brake, a LET is 200 therefore the turbo is giving you 50, third of which is 16.5.
An addition 16.5 brake on an XE with an induction kit alone - has this been anyones experience - no?
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Matt H
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Or maybe he was on about Nos
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Brett
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Or sorry maybe I misunderstood this guy.
He means like an XE is 150 brake, a LET is 200 therefore the turbo is giving you 50, third of which is 16.5.
An addition 16.5 brake on an XE with an induction kit alone - has this been anyones experience - no?
yes, it's something like this what he means...
the more i think about it, it messes with my head because it's just so much bollocks!!
A third of "what" turbo??!! ahhh
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SetH
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Registered: 15th Jul 01
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throw down the gauntlet to him then.
get him to RR his car before and after the filter. Watch his face drop as he realises hes gained 2 bhp.
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Ditch
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Registered: 29th Nov 02
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is it really worth entertaining this fella as he is obviously a retard...
just worries me he is a trainee mechanic!
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timrud_
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Maybe he was on drugs?
BUT!!!
He never said what turbo it as getting a third of the power of. Lets say the K&N adds 5bhp. The turbo may add 15bhp. Therefore he is right?
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Jambo
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Registered: 8th Sep 01
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Also worth telling him about induction tempretures, compression, how things that are hot expand....
I could go on
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Brett
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quote:
Originally posted by timrud_
Maybe he was on drugs?
BUT!!!
He never said what turbo it as getting a third of the power of. Lets say the K&N adds 5bhp. The turbo may add 15bhp. Therefore he is right?
everyoen seems to be missing the point...the sentence itself doesnt make sense
"an induction kit gives a third of turbo power" 
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SetH
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Im confused, brett can i just touch your fanneh please?
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SteveW
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Laters guys 
*logs off net to nip down halfords and buy a K&N for this huge power gains*
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Jambo
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Ive got a K&N AND a turbo
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Stu
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quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
Ive got a K&N AND a turbo
3 and a third times turbo power for you then my friend!!!!
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Gavin
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Registered: 3rd Apr 02
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quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
Ive got a K&N AND a turbo
was u lucky enough to feel the FORCE of the 1/3 bhp power gain
pew pew pew pewwwww
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Brett
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Basically he says when he puts the k&n on his car today, it'll mean he's got a third of a turbo on his car....daft i know
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Ditch
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Registered: 29th Nov 02
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which bit does he get for the third??
compressor housing?
impellor blades?
what
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Kiddy_Corsa
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Registered: 7th Nov 02
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quote:
Originally posted by loafofbrett
Basically he says when he puts the k&n on his car today, it'll mean he's got a third of a turbo on his car....daft i know
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J200RSA
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Registered: 23rd May 05
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sounds a bit like my mate here, rekons he can get 40bhp from a superchip on a 1.2
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dannycorsa c
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induction kit made my car slower.!!
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