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Originally posted by Ditch
How can you not like them Tom..... just look at it!!!

thats the only view most would get of it too!

*right clicks pic, saves as wallpaper

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Originally posted by AK
its the fact that it an ugly bastatard car...

Fee: Range rover is sooo much fun though. ooo arrrghh

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Originally posted by AK
Fee posting

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Originally posted by Fee AK
People just give me funny looks when i drive it though

(this username is starting to annoy me now....every time i type in AK I automatically type in your password :lol

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Originally posted by Tom
Nah i'd say the wheels do

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Originally posted by Tom
Nah i'd say the wheels do

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wheels can make or break a car

[Edited on 18-11-2005 by AK]

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Originally posted by AK
anybody got a decent performance comparison of the

R32 GTR
R33 GTR
R34 GTR

I'm taking the performance stats on CS with a pinch of salt...

First google search didnt really show much and i'm on a damn slow link!

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With 4675mm of length and 1360mm of height, the R33 is not only longer and higher than the R32, but with 1780mm also wider than the latter. And it looks that - the R33 has a much wider stance, and in all looks much more impressive than its predecessor. It is rounder, too,


The front's look remains aggressive, although less edgy than before. There are still all those scoops within the front bumper, which makes sense, since the RB26DETT wants to be cooled as before. Even though, everything looks more mature. The Skyline has got rid of its end-80's-boy-racer style and looks more of a piece now than the R32.

The side and rear enhance this impr-ession. Apart from the rear wing, additional side sills and slightly wider wheel-housings for the 245/45 ZR17 tires, there is not much to distinguish the GT-R from the standard coupe. These applications don't disturb the design, though, but support the GT-R's sportive appearance.



The R33 keeps the RB26DETT engine from the R32 GT-R. The power is still the same with an official 280hp (206kw) at 6800rpm, although inofficially it is ass-umed to be around 302hp. Increased peak turbo-boost of 0.84bar, an improved intercooler and changed computer control parameters make for a higher torque of 375Nm (271 lb-ft) at 4400rpm. As usual, power is deployed via the 5-speed Getrag gearbox and ATTESA-ETS to all four wheels.



The Brakes



All versions now get the Brembo brakes already known from the R32 GT-R V-Spec.



The V-Spec Version



The R33 V-Spec gets the Pro version of ATTESA-ETS with revised torque proportioning, a stiffer and 10mm lower suspension and other mechanical changes.


The R33 GT-R is not only bigger than the R32, but also 50kg heavier, which is generally not really useful concerning active ability. The more weight, the more you have to move - in any respect. Since the engine has not been changed that much, except for higher peak-torque, it is no surprise that the new GT-R makes the sprint from 0-60mph in "only" 4.9 seconds, two tenths of a se-



cond slower than the R32 GT-R. The clutch is all sportive, though - you really have to push it hard. The shifter works very precisely, therefore, as does the steering.




Anyway, it seems the Skyline has become more luxurious with the new generation. The longer wheel-base and softer suspension setup - the ride is still quite firm - make the R33 more every-day useable than the other GT-Rs. On the other hand, a setup like this makes the car less agile. It does not feel as stuck to the road anymore as its pre-decessor did, despite its aerodynamic

advantage. Furthermore, the large 17inch wheels tend to tramline. You feel any bump in the road moving the car around and one gets the feeling of a lack of control in its behavior. After all, the R33 is just not as confidence inspiring and agile as the other versions.


1999 has seen the introduction of the new Skyline R34 GT-R, with a wealth of history behind it and an enviable reputation to live up to. A ‘super-evolution’ of the model it replaced, the R34 GT-R is more advanced in every respect. Its body is stiffer and its aerodynamics package is further refined, and in V-spec features front and rear carbonfibre diffusers under the car, and dual wing adjustable aerofoil on the bootlid. Among the many technical refinements under the bonnet are twin ceramic intercooled turbochargers, which effectively eliminate turbo-lag. There is also more torque and better power delivery.

A six-speed Getrag transmission now delivers the engine’s output to the wheels. Improvements have been made to the ATTESA four-wheel drive system, which features E-TS, or Electronic Torque Split. This gives the driver the entertainment of a 100 per cent rear-wheel drive car, together with the traction and safety of a 50:50 four-wheel drive system when conditions demand it. This is further backed up by ‘intelligent’ electronic limited-slip differential. Refinements to the Super HICAS rear-wheel steer system include an electronic yaw-rate Feedback Control System for even more precise control of the rear wheels in extreme situations.

The aerodynamic efficiency of the Skyline GT-R has evolved from lessons learned and information gathered on the racetrack. This not only ensures that the car incorporates all the latest visible aerodynamic aids to help smooth the airflow, but also includes hidden items such as the front and rear diffusers fitted under the floor pan. Under high speed driving, the parts that project below the body, such as the engine and rear axle, will normally produce ‘lift’ however by covering the engine and rear differential, the airflow is smoother and less turbulent. In addition, the shape of the Skyline’s rear diffuser is designed to produce downforce and it also helps to cool the differential. A two-stage rear spoiler design manufactured in aluminium alloy is capable of adjustment ranging from 10 to 30 degrees to provide differing degrees of downforce.

The RB26DETT in-line, 2568cc six-cylinder engine retains the previous 280bhp at 6,800 rpm of its predecessor but has been developed to provide more torque for maximum driveability from lower rpm without compromising top end power. Quicker turbo response has also been achieved through the use of new turbochargers. Power is fed through a new six-speed close ratio Getrag gearbox.The basic engine goes back some nine years and was first developed for racing. In racing specification the engine comfortably produces upwards of 507bhp.

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