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9th Nov 05 at 20:01

http://www.beccy.christian.btinternet.co.uk/ChristianvsGary2.mpg

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9th Nov 05 at 20:03

tells the tale slightmore as theres a few corners in this

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9th Nov 05 at 20:22

fuckin sick wot spec his rst

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9th Nov 05 at 20:22

cool

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9th Nov 05 at 20:29

that last vid was ace, canny wait till this one downloads.

i love that white rst, its awsome

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9th Nov 05 at 20:54

It's actually the same clip but longer.

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9th Nov 05 at 21:00

so its shit round corners basically

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9th Nov 05 at 21:24

Great vid and the Escort is very fast, especially for a 15-20 year old 1.6! In the real world it doesnt have a chance against the Evo tho, it pulls away effortlessly when braking, cornering or power application comes into the equation.

You can do what you want to the engine but no amount of money can make up or a 15 year old FWD chassis that wasnt brilliant even then! The car is sweet tho and clearly very fast. I would feel like a bit of a tit waving tho with that outcome, can barely see the evo when they get back on the main straight!!!

Stu

[Edited on 09-11-2005 by Stu]

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9th Nov 05 at 22:14

quote:
Originally posted by Rus
so its shit round corners basically

Yep

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10th Nov 05 at 00:58

liked the bit, evo no where to be seen then-------------------

fast RST though

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10th Nov 05 at 09:45

He should drive it harder! The last left hander he slows down and takes it in 3rd with a soft line. Mine flew round there flat out in 5th using all the road LOL

[Edited on 10-11-2005 by timrud_]

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10th Nov 05 at 09:52

evo no where to be seen after the corner
cos it was infront and long gone

that ford has top speed but wont go round corners

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10th Nov 05 at 09:53

If he drove it right it would be! Mine beat an import scoob round there...

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10th Nov 05 at 10:00

Nope. I dont think how well driven it was would make a bit of difference, the Evo is always gonna destroy it round the bends!

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10th Nov 05 at 10:29

its pretty blatant that a car built for rallying is going to absolutely twat an old FWD ford out on track...

but the driver of each car plays a big part too...

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10th Nov 05 at 10:34

also the ford doesnt power up untill 3rd gear properly
evo has power right throu rev range
so there is no chance the ford would have kept up even if he try'd

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10th Nov 05 at 11:09

I wish we had filmed some of the proper laps we had round there....

Go and find some vids from track days Martin Hadland has had his Metro on track, and see what that does. Its easily a match for lowly tuned cossies. Then I'll tell you how much my car beat that round by LOL

Yes the Evo will make a little bit of time up in the bends, but not as much as people think. Then the straights its a gonner, as the RST is rolling and won't have any traction problems.

You lot need to actually go on a track day and see what really happens, rather than just listening to people, or presuming things!

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10th Nov 05 at 11:10

The bends are too sweeping and quick for 4wd to be an advantage on brunters. There is only the bend ofter the mega long straight which it tightens up a lot.

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10th Nov 05 at 11:34

quote:
Originally posted by timrud_
You lot need to actually go on a track day and see what really happens, rather than just listening to people, or presuming things!

Ive been doing track days for the last 5 years and used all my cars (Corsa 2.1 - 210bhp, M3 Evo, 200sx - 350bhp+ and my P1) Front wheel drive shopping cars cant compete no matter how big their engine is!!! Dont get me wrong tho, if you get a complete novice who's never done a track day before in his brand new STI/Evo then yeah you probably will pass em, thats a confidence thing tho!

The Evo doesnt just start to pull away from the RST it fookin anihilates it to the point where you cant even see it when it gets back on the main straight. Brunters isnt really a good place to show the allround abilities either as its more of a top speed sort of place. On a tighter track Id be confident of lapping that RST! A Corsa is a poorer handler/braker than the RST too!!

Stu

[Edited on 10-11-2005 by Stu]

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10th Nov 05 at 11:55

But were talking about Brunters here...

One straight is 2 miles long. Another is around a mile. The distance my car (or any with equal power to weight) would pull would be so uncatchable its not true.

Going on my experience from going round there, the dude in the RST is not trying particularly hard. Like the last left hander, that can easily be taken at 120, and the road your going onto is 60m wide. Plenty of room to carry your speed.

Tighter tracks yes. 4wd has its advantages. But even on Donno, I'd be confident of knowing a FWD N/A car you wouldn't catch

Going to RSOC national day is a real eye opener for people that think 4wd is the be all and end all of the world. Seeing some old Mk2 on carbs keeping with them lap after lap

[Edited on 10-11-2005 by timrud_]

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10th Nov 05 at 12:02

quote:
Originally posted by Stu

The Evo doesnt just start to pull away from the RST it fookin anihilates it to the point where you cant even see it when it gets back on the main straight. Brunters isnt really a good place to show the allround abilities either as its more of a top speed sort of place. On a tighter track Id be confident of lapping that RST!

[Edited on 10-11-2005 by Stu]

Theres exceptions to every rule tho isnt there? There will be a front wheel drive somewhere that is totally sorted, had thousands spent etc.... that will be a flier. But that cannot be compared to another standard car........compare that to a well sorted RWD or 4WD.......Simon Norris' Evo, Clive Seddons Evo etc etc

A FWD hatchback is not the best base for a high performance car!

Stu

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10th Nov 05 at 13:41

But the FWD car I'm thinking of will still of cost less than yours stands you at

The way I look at it your trying to make the fastest point to point car, for the least £££££

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10th Nov 05 at 13:49

quote:
Originally posted by timrud_
The way I look at it your trying to make the fastest point to point car, for the least £££££

I am?

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10th Nov 05 at 14:01

Thats the point of going on track? Or am I misin gthe point here LOL

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10th Nov 05 at 14:51

quote:
Originally posted by timrud_
I wish we had filmed some of the proper laps we had round there....

Go and find some vids from track days Martin Hadland has had his Metro on track, and see what that does. Its easily a match for lowly tuned cossies. Then I'll tell you how much my car beat that round by LOL

Yes the Evo will make a little bit of time up in the bends, but not as much as people think. Then the straights its a gonner, as the RST is rolling and won't have any traction problems.

You lot need to actually go on a track day and see what really happens, rather than just listening to people, or presuming things!

Go and drive an Evo for a few days and then rethink your post. An Evo will chop seconds off a fwd car around corners.

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