Craig W
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http://www.itvregions.com/Anglia/News/Two+convicted+of+bodybuilders+murder.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4176626.stm
http://www.itn.co.uk/news/453808.html
I must admit being in court with that lot everyday for 8'ish weeks has been an experience. Quite wierd thinking that between the 2 convicted of murder they'll spend at least 55 years in prison.
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CCA
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I heard this on the radio and thought of you
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ed
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Were you on the jury?
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Craig W
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No im a prisoner escort so handcuffed them up and down from court and sat with them everyday.
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langey
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Were you on the jury?
he was the judge
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TNM
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Originally posted by Craig W
No im a prisoner escort so handcuffed them up and down from court and sat with them everyday.
Ever been tempted to flick ther ears?
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Craig W
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Originally posted by Craig W
No im a prisoner escort so handcuffed them up and down from court and sat with them everyday.
Ever been tempted to flick ther ears?
No but after the murder trial i was in court with another bloke and spilt a glass of water over him and a police lady involved in the case who was in the public gallery cheers and said 'you needed a bath cos you stink, do you want some soap to go with that water?' 
The judge wasn't in court at this point... 
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Guys may have murdered him, but its not like he was a valuble asset to the community ... unless you were a crack head.
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Craig W
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Yeah the victim was an evil criminal himself... sounds wierd but i actually got on well with all of the convicted, proper gentlemen.
It was said that the main killer (Vincent) was like a modern day Kray but with a hell of alot more money.
Although major criminals, they wasn't involved in drugs and kept most of their activities within the underworld.
I'd rather get on well with someone who gets 30 years for killing another criminal than a scummy git who gets 5 years for raping an innocent child.
Vincent was a multi millionaire, thrown it all away now though. I guess enough is never enough!
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langey
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Originally posted by Craig W
Yeah the victim was an evil criminal himself... sounds wierd but i actually got on well with all of the convicted, proper gentlemen.
It was said that the main killer (Vincent) was like a modern day Kray but with a hell of alot more money.
Although major criminals, they wasn't involved in drugs and kept most of their activities within the underworld.
I'd rather get on well with someone who gets 30 years for killing another criminal than a scummy git who gets 5 years for raping an innocent child.
Vincent was a multi millionaire, thrown it all away now though. I guess enough is never enough!
exactly
had a read of all the news links you posted up, sounds v.interesting, bet it was evan more interesting being there and witht the guys who did it too.
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55 years. Puts the 8months i did in perspective
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ed
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God imagine the feeling they had when they heard that verdict... Thats a long time 
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Craig W
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After Vincent got 30 years he said in the cells 'Ah well it's not the end of the world, chin up' and laughed.
yeah Langey enough isn't enough. he had a £12million hotel in Spain, over £100k's worth of cars, houses/mansions etc all over the world, multi millionaire... he even wore a £50k watch to court!
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Craig W
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Both of their wifes burst out into tears when they got guilty and ran out... they didn't watch them get sentenced.
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langey
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Originally posted by Craig W
After Vincent got 30 years he said in the cells 'Ah well it's not the end of the world, chin up' and laughed.
yeah Langey enough isn't enough. he had a £12million hotel in Spain, over £100k's worth of cars, houses/mansions etc all over the world, multi millionaire... he even wore a £50k watch to court!
i know enoguh isnt enough, the reason is, you get used to it and want more/better. sma ewith cars and power of them 
but no way could i go to a prison cell and think "30years at least, ah well its not the end of the world, chinup" may aswell be the end of the world. but if he's bigtime, then he'll have a good life in prison i suppose? craig can you keep us updated?
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Craig W
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He's a double A Cat prisoner which means he's of the highest risk. He has unlimited funds so is considered a high escape risk. But the prison officers said he's the top man in prison and has a very easy life. Although now he'll get transferred between prisons, he wont spend the whole 30+ years in the same place. The police said he was considered as the most dangerous man in the UK so i expect he wont have a hard time wherever he goes.
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Craig W
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He owned a few nightclubs and stripclubs, if he got a not guilty i was gonna ask for a job on one of his doors
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TNM
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He owned a few nightclubs and stripclubs, if he got a not guilty i was gonna ask for a job on one of his doors
Still worth asking tho
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langey
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quote:
Originally posted by Craig W
He's a double A Cat prisoner which means he's of the highest risk. He has unlimited funds so is considered a high escape risk. But the prison officers said he's the top man in prison and has a very easy life. Although now he'll get transferred between prisons, he wont spend the whole 30+ years in the same place. The police said he was considered as the most dangerous man in the UK so i expect he wont have a hard time wherever he goes.
maybe this is why its not the end of the world then, walk into a prison and be the "daddy" not needing to go round making his way to the top lol.
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Craig W
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Even if he was well looked after in prison it's not exactly the same as 7* hotels in Dubai
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yeah tbh, he won't really live to much of a hard life in prison with his status and when he comes out he'll probably have just a big empire cos lots of ppl will be looking out for him and after it...
seems like u got an "interesting" job craig lol, been costing us 80k a day to fly him in chopper over my house/area i here to the court.
as u said though:
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Originally posted by Craig W
Yeah the victim was an evil criminal himself... sounds wierd but i actually got on well with all of the convicted, proper gentlemen.
It was said that the main killer (Vincent) was like a modern day Kray but with a hell of alot more money.
Although major criminals, they wasn't involved in drugs and kept most of their activities within the underworld.
I'd rather get on well with someone who gets 30 years for killing another criminal than a scummy git who gets 5 years for raping an innocent child.
Vincent was a multi millionaire, thrown it all away now though. I guess enough is never enough!
totally agree
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Craig W
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Originally posted by dna23
yeah tbh, he won't really live to much of a hard life in prison with his status and when he comes out he'll probably have just a big empire cos lots of ppl will be looking out for him and after it...
seems like u got an "interesting" job craig lol, been costing us 80k a day to fly him in chopper over my house/area i here to the court.
as u said though:
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Originally posted by Craig W
Yeah the victim was an evil criminal himself... sounds wierd but i actually got on well with all of the convicted, proper gentlemen.
It was said that the main killer (Vincent) was like a modern day Kray but with a hell of alot more money.
Although major criminals, they wasn't involved in drugs and kept most of their activities within the underworld.
I'd rather get on well with someone who gets 30 years for killing another criminal than a scummy git who gets 5 years for raping an innocent child.
Vincent was a multi millionaire, thrown it all away now though. I guess enough is never enough!
totally agree
Not sure if ive read that right, but he didn't come to court in a helicopter mate. Because hes a double A Cat prisoner he had to have an armed convoy around his prison van (bullet proof tyres/windows etc) and a helicopter followed them every day to court. Also had road closures etc. Basically they had a clear run all the way and wasn't stopping for anybody...
[Edited on 23-08-2005 by Craig W]
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ohhh now i got ya sos but all the old folk round here were sounding off he went in a chopper i didn't realise it merely followed them,....
makes sense though judging by the risk of people braking him out .etc
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Proper Gangster IIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!
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and pics of thier wives ?
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