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Martin
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...buying a new headunit to go from a 3v out put, to a 4v out put.

basically, what would ppl recomend as a replacement for this heap of shite.
i need 1xsub out, 1x aux-in, mp3, better than 4 x 45W amplifier,



look at it. cant believe i even brought the thing...




Thanks
Maritn
Richie
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and how much would you like to spend?

I just got this:



Best unit ive ever had, cost £340
Martin
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That looks LEDGE

Dont really mind how much it costs... my sub wasnt nearly as much as expensive as i thought it would be


When it's all finsished, i should only have my 2 front door 6x9's actually running off of my HU. The midbass drivers (dont know what ones yet), and my sub will be running off of two seperate amps.
so, i dont know if the internal amplifiers are such a big factor...?

i need:
1 pre-out,
1 aux-in,
MP3,
something that doesnt skip!
remote would be nice...
and i dont want it to have a screen that folds out, otherwise it'll get in my way...


Whats your HU, why is it so much better?

Martin
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Just wondering, what's the difference with preouts, say from a 3v to 4v as you said? I know I have 2x4v preouts but don't know quite what that means!
Martin
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4v signal going to amps or something like that.
dunno if it means you can have your gains a lil higer.

Thats what im enquiring
loo_goblin
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not too keen on that richie, i thought u had an alpine recently?
Martin
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so know one recomends anything then
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by loo_goblin
not too keen on that richie, i thought u had an alpine recently?


its looks alright, bit too flashy for my liking, but personally i would have stuck to that alpine - that was the stuff of dreams

martin - get an alpine or pioneer mate, but it all depends how much you want to spend. If you've got about 200 quid then pioneer 77mp - 3x 6v outputs, plays mp3s etc no remote, has aux in via a bus converter cable, sounds really really good, not flashy in any way etc
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The Alpine was fucked within a few weeks of having it, and the sound quality on the clarion is much better compared to the 9855R.

The 9855R had a 1 bit DAC which suprised me, the clarion has a 24 bit DAC and the difference is shocking.

Richie
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The Pioneer 77mp is a brill unit, 24 bit DAC but is very very slow at playing mp3's......
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by Richie
The Pioneer 77mp is a brill unit, 24 bit DAC but is very very slow at playing mp3's......


i wouldnt say very very slow richie, but yes isnt a speedy beast but still, only takes 30secs or so to load the cd and about 5-10secs (depending on size of file) - so its not too bad.
But its that and the size of the lcd screen that are the only downside (to the pioneer 77mp) to this HU tbh, think its bloody brilliant for the price though

suprised about the alpine though, thought it was 24bit - but yes i agree, a BIG BIG difference between different dacs though

[Edited on 16-08-2005 by Dom]
Richie
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the clarion is touch screen if you didnt know, hence the screen size
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by Richie
the clarion is touch screen if you didnt know, hence the screen size


didnt know that, still not sure about it, look wise - but then again, its not really about looks is it

btw - do you know what the new pioneer DEX-P90 is like? even though its a DVD player 'n' all, still seems a bit expensive unless im missing something
Martin
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Thats. Looks crap, but the pre-outs got me thinking...

quote:
Originally posted by some one on car audio direct

...after i had re- set my gains on my amps this thing really came into its own!...




So the higher out put on your pre-outs the higher you can have your gains...?

obviously sticking to the rule of not going crazy with it


Martin
Dom
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basically with higher preouts, you will still have a pretty strong signal by the time it reaches the back (as voltage drops over length of cabling), so usually its cleaner and better etc

As for gains, usually you have to have them lower as the signal is 'bigger' (has more volume to it) - one thing that has confussed me though is that amps always state an input value, usually 3/4v, but ive been wondering if theres problems forcing say 6v into the amp etc - have never found any info about this, but then again ive never had any problems (though i would stay away from cheapy amps)
Martin
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defo dont have a 'cheap amp' as you put it

cheerz. may aswell get one of them then.
ash_corsa
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martin - get an alpine or pioneer mate, but it all depends how much you want to spend. If you've got about 200 quid then pioneer 77mp - 3x 6v outputs, plays mp3s etc no remote, has aux in via a bus converter cable, sounds really really good, not flashy in any way etc :thumbs


Def reccomend the P77mp, very good unit with superb sound, i paid £350 for mine ages ago and dont regret it seeing the prices today, im using a similar speced alpine at the mo but the pioneer was def better
also had the p8600mp - very good unit also with the scroll menus for mp3's and card-sized remote, these can be picked up at very good prices so take a look at them!
Adam-D
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buy my stereo
Martin
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam-D
buy my stereo


does it meet all my requirements?
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by Martin
quote:
Originally posted by Adam-D
buy my stereo


does it meet all my requirements?


its a 77mp i believe - if it is, yesh mate, sound as a pound as it were
vincefenlon
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pioneers are the best for me, had a alpine 9855r, prefered my pioneer 7600

 
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