Pablo
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I go 4 times a week just weights stuff, chest, biceps, triceps, back, legs, shoulders! and also k boxing 4 times a week, which involves alot of CV work, press ups, sit ups etc etc all good stuff.
Im a hell of a lot better than I was but I wanna get alot more definition, Whats best hing to do, Im doing loads reps lower weights and then stepping it up and doing less reps.
Eg. Shrugs -
25 Reps - 25Kg
20 Reps - 32.5Kg
15 Reps - 35Kg
12reps - 40Kg
8Reps - 45Kg
But mainly wanna get better definition on my chest now had tattoo so doing chest twice a week doing different weight exercises on different days.
Jsut wondered what you all do, or suggestions.
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Lynny
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i pay £220 per year to eye up the men in very little amounts of clothing, i also ocasionally do some exercise
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Pablo
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Thanks for that 
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Lynny
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works for me 
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AndyW
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im opposite to u, im pretty defined but i wanna bulk up cos im skinny. but my physique just wont seem to allow for it. how long u been in training mate, i thought after 6months id be alot bigger but apparently it takes years lol...i also train weights 4 times a week.
[Edited on 07-06-2005 by AndyW]
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Munchie
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i need to know this as well?! i just go on the machines (weight 1s) and the weights that i pull/push range from 35kg to 60! i dont know if and should i go any higher per day or anything?! help!
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Lynny
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whatever you do, do not do what boyd off neighbours did and take steroids then drink half a glass of wine  it develops into a brain tumour and he starts seeing dead people
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Lynny
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quote:
Originally posted by Munchie
i need to know this as well?! i just go on the machines (weight 1s) and the weights that i pull/push range from 35kg to 60! i dont know if and should i go any higher per day or anything?! help!
ask a personal trainer at the gym, mind did wonders for me
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Jake
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ok what your doing is called 'pyramid' which is one of the worst forms of excerise you can do. I'd say your going over the top especially for traps. Back to topic. weighted pull-ups, bench press/close grip bench press are probably the best excersises to go for. Compound over isolation all the way.
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Pablo
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i was told to tone do high reps and lower weights (red muscel fibres), to bulk do lower reps and more weight... (white muscel fibres)
BUT
If you did like im doing (so im old) bit of everything low weight high reps and step weight up, lower the reps then u do both the Red and the white muscle fibres hence get bigger quicker!
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Pablo
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quote:
Originally posted by Lynny
whatever you do, do not do what boyd off neighbours did and take steroids then drink half a glass of wine it develops into a brain tumour and he starts seeing dead people
thanks for ruining that for us as well!  
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mk4_astra
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are you wanting get overall bigger or are you happy at your body frame but wanting to get more ripped? i can show you 2 example pics if your not sure what i mean
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Jake
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never in my life have i heard that theory. There are fast twitching(excel at heavy weight lifting/low reps) and slow twitching(excel with stamina ie. long distance running) muscle fibres.
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Lynny
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why not just be happy with the way god made you
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Pablo
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Thats why im asking, its hat I was told by bloke at the gym other week !
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Pablo
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God didnt make me, Mum and dad did
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Lynny
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quote:
Originally posted by P4UL
God didnt make me, Mum and dad did
yes, its an expression
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Jake
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so much bullshit floating around the gym. forum.bodybuilding.com
^exellent site to get information from
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Pablo
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So is join a gym and get fit
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Jamescorsa97
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quote:
Originally posted by P4UL
i was told to tone do high reps and lower weights (red muscel fibres), to bulk do lower reps and more weight... (white muscel fibres)
BUT
If you did like im doing (so im old) bit of everything low weight high reps and step weight up, lower the reps then u do both the Red and the white muscle fibres hence get bigger quicker!
This works but mixing your workout does not always work. Heavy weights and light weights, Your kick boxing is a great way to gain tone. White muscle fibres are fast twitch i.e 100m sprinter- these give you tone. red muscle fibres are slow twitch i.e great for a long distance runner.
Also makle sure you have a good diet, protein is always a good place to start..... boiled chicken, tuna etc. Cut out all the rubbish you eat but don't deny yourself all together. Have 1 take away a week or soemthing to stop losing motivation and when drinking drink plenty of water to stop the beer having a bad effect.
Personally when i wanted tone i cut out the heavy weights totally and focused on cv work with low weights high reps for 2 months. Once you have burned body fat down to around 12% then you can bring the high weights back into it.
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mk4_astra
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quote:
Originally posted by jakethesnake
so much bullshit floating around the gym. forum.bodybuilding.com
^exellent site to get information from
agreed been browsing that site for about a month now and its a great for information
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Pablo
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By the way cheers for the info, I shall prob attempt a bit more CV stuff and lower weights for a month and see how I get on from there!
[Edited on 08-06-2005 by P4UL]
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Munchie
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any advice for me then please? lol
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Jake
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ok. try to steer clear of CV and lifting on the same day. As im sure you know, keep that diet looking good.heres my thread i made about a while ago.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=208943
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Pablo
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So what about super sets?
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