Mistamist
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Im seriously thinking about going down this route but wanna find out as much as possible about them before hand so my car is off the road for as short a time as possible
what is needed for the conversion?
any help is appreciated
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Twiggy
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quote:
Originally posted by M15T XE
Im seriously thinking about going down this route but wanna find out as much as possible about them before hand so my car is off the road for as short a time as possible
what is needed for the conversion?
any help is appreciated
Some Throttle Bodies might be a good start??
Sorry
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Mistamist
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AK
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basic conversion.....
TB's on inlet or QED DTH type
Mappable ECU
FPR and ARP rod bolts are recommended though
should give you 180+bhp on a c20xe
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AK
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this is SBD's basic kit..... gives 208bhp (with there exhaust manifold)
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AK
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TP208 Kit
For 2.0 Litre 16V XE & LN Engine
Exhaust manifold type needed to run this with this kit *C-2.0L-XE
The TP208 kit is unquestionably our most popular kit, particularly in the Westfield & Caterham style cars. It has been used for road, sprint & hill climbs. The kit gives good all-round drivability with 0-60 in 4 seconds or less on cars weighing 650Kgs or less & returning up to 40 MPG if cruising. A Westfield driven by Trevor Willis using this kit helped him become the overall winner of the 1996 & 1997 CCC Speed Championship.
The TP208 Kit is the basis for all the other kits in the Taper kit range for the 2.0L XE engine, so it's simple to increase the power of your engine output by upgrading this kit if you want to at a later date. When fitting the TP208 kit, the only modification to your engine internally is the fitting of the Heavy-duty rod bolts. The kit is designed to use the Bosch Cream Injectors, Part No.0280 150 744, as fitted to the 2.0L XE engine. When ordering your kit you should specify whether your car is front, rear or mid engine layout. This is because we produce different wiring harnesses to suit each application.
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Mistamist
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just the info i was looking for, this sets me off on the right track.
cheers adam.
[Edited on 22-05-2005 by M15T XE]
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AK
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so as you see from the pic....
TB trumpets, inlet manifold, ECU + loom, FPR and ARP rod bolts
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AK
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quote:
Originally posted by M15T XE
whats this adam?
i dont follow you?? you asked for TB's... there you go 
MBE or DTA.... emerald / gems.... heaps.... but those are good
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Mistamist
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edited as i was asking question while you was answering it 
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AK
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SBD price list on TP TB kits 
Taper Throttle Kits 2.0L 16V XE
TP208 kit without coil pack £1,630.21
TP208 kit with coil pack £1,670.71
TP225 kit without coil pack £2,497.08
TP225 kit with coil pack £2,537.58
TP235 kit without coil pack £3,266.61
TP235 kit with coil pack £3,307.11
TP250+ kit with coil pack £5,031.39
TP275 kit with coil pack £5,981.33
TP290+ kit with coil pack £10,567.00
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AK
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i'm running around the tp235 area with headwork and 2.1 bottom end....
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Mistamist
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yeah think ill be looking at the TP225 area using the omega pistons, im thinking thats all my budget would be.
but it might be an idea to start with the 205 setup and slowly upgrade eventually to the 290+ (i can dream)
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Ant
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im guesiing fitting and mapping cost is on top of this
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AK
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there will be hidden costs fitting/mapping etc
budget 500 for mapping alone
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Mistamist
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yeah have spoken to someone i know at a RR and he said he would help me out for a pretty decent price.
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Mistamist
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fitting shouldnt be a problem to start off with, just need to sort my finances before i get too happy with the visa.
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Dave A
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all sbd throttle body kits come with a base map which is very good, so you can run the car on that before mapping it properly. i know people that ran their kit on the base map for a year or two!
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Siberia
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thats actually a good price considering they give all the parts needed...
EDIT do ya need sort of DIS pack with that 208 kit pictured above?
[Edited on 23-05-2005 by Siberia]
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AK
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sib - look at the prices, there is a price for a kit with coil pack.
corsa808 - they are idiots for running on a poorly mapped car.... they may be running lean/rich.... damage bores etc
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Siberia
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ah yeh see it now
them base mapps are for getting you to the mapping session... or so my omex manual tells me...
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Dave A
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corsa808 - they are idiots for running on a poorly mapped car.... they may be running lean/rich.... damage bores etc
i know its not the right way to do things, but both of them had it mapped properly recently and they turned out to be very close to perfect!
probably just lucky
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Fad
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Some good info for myself to consider here also 
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BeArDy
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i have for sale
Its the QED450 kit
Q450 – 225 to 245BHP
A pair of new, Q450 profile camshafts
A set of solid cam follower inserts and shims
A pair of vernier cam pulleys
(for more accurate cam timing)
A set of race quality valve springs
(to cope with the higher lift & valve acceleration of the cams)
A set of forged pistons
(with deeper valve pockets & higher CR required for Q450 cams)
A set of race quality rod bolts
(for a higher rev limit)
This kit is brand new never been used and comes complete with dta engine management system.
£2000
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James R
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Beardy is sell that lot at bargain price.
Also worth mentioning, that SBD measure their BHP n american standards, which are less strict than EU standards and hence why they are often higher than observed 195BHP is the norm for their "208BHP" kit
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