TNM
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is it DVD quailty?
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Dom
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no 
digi beta is nearly dvd quality - but mainly used for TV 
[Edited on 18-04-2005 by Dom]
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welshdude
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Not DVD but still miles better than the old 8mm camcorders
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TNM
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ok
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Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by welshdude
Not DVD but still miles better than the old 8mm camcorders
depends what camera you use - if you use a single CCD cam, then tbh the picture is slightly better over HI8 etc. If your using something like a cannon XL1S ie: 3CCD, then yea theres a huge improvement - just look at 28 Days. But obviously thats been touched up loads for DVD.
But then its all down to price - handy cam a few 100, XL1S/Sonys around the 2-8k range, DVD quality professional cams 40k - a few 100k 
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I had the understaning Mini DV had the potential of being mioles better than dvd if shot on the right equipment. Dvd is compressed after all.
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TNM
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hmm all i want is something that is of good quailty and not like the old days where it was all fuzzy and poop!
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welshdude
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Well I would go for mini DV simply for the small size of the cameras compared to the big and bulky 8mm's.
Also with most mini dv camcorders you can connect them to a pc using a firewire card and transfer the video over almost quality loss free, however you can only send video from the pc to the camcorder if it has DV-IN enabled (the reason for having this feature disabled is that if the camcorder can record from an external source the it is classed as a vcr and therefore subject to a higher import tax)
You can get good quality panasonic and JVC camcorders for around £300 these days. I paid over 1K 5 years ago when mini DV was new!
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TNM
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What software do people use for editing?
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Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeLamb
I had the understaning Mini DV had the potential of being mioles better than dvd if shot on the right equipment. Dvd is compressed after all.
hmmm, mini DV is also compressed using DCT (similar to Mpeg2) and has a fixed bitrate of 25Mb/s (works out about 3.6megs a second), which is great, but like you say its all down to the right equipment - and you certainly need to go 3CCD for anything for DVD. Even then, i would opt for touch the film up during post-production.
But theres loads of variants of DV, like sonys DVCam, panasonics DVCPro - which all have there own take on it.
However, saying all that my mate recently got a sony handy cam (think it was a DCR-HC1000), cost him around 600 quid off the net and the picture is alot better than the old sony handycams - although its still far off DVD, but wasnt too bad for the cash
eitherway, the worse thing with DV cam is that its real-time transfer to your pc etc - so if you have an hours worth of footage then it will take an hour to transfer, which is abit cack, and thats the only reason i would opt for the hard-drive stuff.
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What software do people use for editing?
just use something like premiere mate - i would opt for ver6 if you can get it, because 7, although has alot more features, i found it a pain to use.
Or you can get something like avid which the BBC use, or Final Cut etc
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TNM
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 Final Cut Pro is $1000 
My friend uses that at Uni.
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Dom
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quote:
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Final Cut Pro is $1000
My friend uses that at Uni.
Premiere is around 600 quid mate, so its about the same
Or you could go avid which is sometihng stupid like 6k
eitherway, if you know where to look it can be had for alot cheaper
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TNM
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What do you think of this cam then?
JVC GR-DVL100EK DIGITAL MINIDV CAMCORDER.
This camera is great for begginer video makers and semi pros alike. the functions are so cleary labelled and easy to use that i had mastered them all in about 15 minutes!
Anyone who wants a camcorder for home vidoes or just for fun would love this. It includes all the functions you would ever need for a home video.
The GR-DVL100 is JVC's most affordable camcorder. This model features a High-Resolution Amorphous Silicon LCD/TFT Color Monitor and provides high quality picture and sound with DV format and PCM audio.It provides 100x Super Digital Zoom to bring you closer to the action. LP Mode allows for 120 min. on single cassette.
Other convenient features of the GR-DVL100 include a built-in video light, an "EasyEdit" with retrospective selection of digital effects and scene transitions and Pinpoint Digital Zoom during playback.
General
Product Type Camcorder
Width 170 mm
Depth 96 mm
Height 80 mm
Enclosure Colour Black, metallic silver
Localisation English
Main Features
Media Type Mini DV
Colour Support Colour
Optical Sensor Type CCD
Total Pixels 800,000 pixels
Optical Sensor Size 1/4"
Analogue Video Format PAL
Digital Zoom 100 x
Recording Speed SP, LP
Shooting Modes Fog filter effect, ND filter effect, sports mode, twilight mode
Special Effects Black & White, Cinema, Classic Film, Strobe, Slow Shutter
Faders White fader, slide wipe, scroll wide, random, door wipe, dissolve, black & white fader, mosaic fader
Image Stabiliser Electronic
Max Shutter Speed 1/500 sec
Min Shutter Speed 1/50 sec
White Balance Automatic, presets
PCM Digital Sound 16bit (48KHz / 2 channels), 12bit (32KHz / 4 channels simultaneously)
Remote Control Universal remote control - infrared - multi-brand compatibility
Lens System
Type Zoom lens - 3.6 mm - 36 mm - f/1.8
Focal Length 3.6 mm - 36 mm
Focal Length Equivalent to 35mm Camera 32 - 324mm
Lens Aperture F/1.8
Optical Zoom 10 x
Additional Features
16:9 Mode Yes
Digital Still Camera Function Yes
LP Recording Yes
Built-in Light Yes
Viewfinder
Viewfinder Type LCD monitor
Viewfinder Colour Support Black & White
Display
Type LCD display - TFT active matrix - 2.5" - colour
Display Form Factor Rotating
Microphone
Type Microphone - built-in
Microphone Technology Electret condenser
Connections
Connector Type 1 x IEEE 1394 (FireWire/i.LINK) ( 4 PIN FireWire )
1 x serial ( 9 PIN D-Sub )
1 x composite video/audio output ( RCA phono x 3 )
Software
Software JLIP Video Capture, JLIP Video Producer
Miscellaneous
Cables Included 1 x A/V cable
1 x SCART-Phono adapter
Power
Power Device Power adapter & battery charger - external
Battery
Supported Battery Details 1 x ( included)
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Jodi_the_g
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TNM go for any other major brand bar JVC and you can't go wrong done a lot of research on cameras over the last month or so and the amount of bad reviews on JVC video cameras is unbelieve.
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TNM
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really?
Like what?
I've got a friend thats doing some erm course at uni. His personal cam is a JVC one and the uni's are JVC and he recons its spot on
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Tom
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U shooting some porn
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Jodi_the_g
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http://www.avforums.com/forums/index.php?
Just that the parts are not as good and have a tendecy to go wrong.
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TNM
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had a quick look but no obvious jvc ones stick out.
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TNM
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom
U shooting some porn
Could be on the cards.
Want me to film you?
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Tom
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Yeah 
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TNM
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom
Yeah
As long as you dont shpunk on the lens then its a deal
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Half Pint
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what about me,
Maybe we could tag team CCA 
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TNM
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Originally posted by Half Pint
what about me,
Maybe we could tag team CCA
Is she on the list?
We have a few to get through as it is
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Tom
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U can tag team me like
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