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Filby1

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8th Apr 05 at 07:58

how much more does a C20xe weigh in comparison to a C16xe?

Siberia

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8th Apr 05 at 08:00

dunno the wieghs of each engine but i can tell you that i had to drag my c16xe with gearbox attached around my garden a few times

its not light!

a C20XE is 70KG's or so heaver.....

Ojc

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8th Apr 05 at 08:40

Yes, I want to know this as well.

Filby1

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8th Apr 05 at 08:48

Really ? sound quite a big difference. Anyone else?

Ojc

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8th Apr 05 at 08:57

I think 70kg is to much, thats as much as what a Aprilia RS50 weighs and thats a hell of a lot of weight.

Filby1

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8th Apr 05 at 09:27

I was think that 2 maybe mor like 20kg more if you evern been in a gym ul know 20k quie heavy so 70kg is masive

James R

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8th Apr 05 at 11:22

It's abotu 65kgs, and thats not including that a F20 is abotu 10-15kgs heavier than a F15 box too. It's lots.

Ojc

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8th Apr 05 at 11:33

So the engine weighs 65kg more and the F20 another 10-15kg.

This concerns me.

Filby1

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8th Apr 05 at 12:01

think he meaning the engine is 65kg + 10-15Kg for the f20 box.

But this stil dont tell us just how much more the C20xe+F20 setup weighs than the C16Xe+F16/F18 config

Ojc

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8th Apr 05 at 13:28

C16XE F15

Filby1

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8th Apr 05 at 13:57

Sorry dude whats f16/18 box for?

Siberia

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8th Apr 05 at 13:59

there big block... probably a vectra

Filby1

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8th Apr 05 at 14:12

I see and the F28? Cali Turbo? V6`s?

Jay

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8th Apr 05 at 14:19

V6s are F25 are they not? F28 is six speed for the turbo.

Ojc

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8th Apr 05 at 14:25

Ya das ist gut.

The only person I know that had a F28 on a C20XE was Pete Dennis, although everytime he changed gear it crunched.

This was a few years ago now, when there were no conversion kits and I think his was a butchered attempt.

James R

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8th Apr 05 at 14:49

F13/15/17 all small block gearboxes.

F16/18/20 bigblock 5 spd boxes

F28 6spd getrag box on turbos

F23 on V6's

F25 I think is the 5spd on the new turbo engine?

Anyways yeah about 80kgs extra kgs for a red top and box. and that's infront of the fornt wheels to kinda unwanted imo

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8th Apr 05 at 14:54

80KG is a hell of a weight, I can understand now why the engine in all the cars it comes out of has a subframe.

James R

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8th Apr 05 at 15:58

Yep partly why the handling *myths* exist, you can't defy physics.

Also according to SBD you can get the block on a small block abotu 5kgs lighter.
Which I will be having a stab at over the summer when I'm bored.
I'm doing a practice block first, so provided that doens't go tits up I'll sell on after.

So you cna strech the gap out a fair amout.

Also worth saying that it's likey once you start going TB's etc.. the gap gets bigger cause the small block XE inlets are massive and heavier than the XE one, the exhaust manifolds are smaller, takes less oil in sump, and so on.

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8th Apr 05 at 16:01

I wanna weigh my engine while its out, might put it on the bathroom scales, first weigh myself and then weigh me holding it.

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James R

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8th Apr 05 at 16:17

think you'll go off the scale.
just slide it on to the scales. and slide it off again.

Sly_SRi

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8th Apr 05 at 18:34

just weighed my C20XE:

Engine block with flywheel: 130 Kg
Gearbox: 45 Kg

Dunno what 'F' gearbox it is, 5-speed one from an astra Gsi '94.

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Filby1

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9th Apr 05 at 18:08

How much does a 1.2 8v engine weigh

Filby1

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12th Apr 05 at 08:54

Anybody? weight of 1.2 8v Engine

Jambo

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12th Apr 05 at 09:01

This bloody topic is so dull. The wieght difference may be XX KG's. But from owning an x14xe for 3 years and now an LET for 6months there is VERY LITTLE difference in handling.

If anything it has improved the feel of the steering, there is no horrible side effects, it just feels different.

This is what every owner of an XE/LET owner has said. Please take note.

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12th Apr 05 at 10:14

quote:
Originally posted by Jambo

This bloody topic is so dull. The wieght difference may be XX KG's. But from owning an x14xe for 3 years and now an LET for 6months there is VERY LITTLE difference in handling.

If anything it has improved the feel of the steering, there is no horrible side effects, it just feels different.

This is what every owner of an XE/LET owner has said. Please take note.

Bingo hit the nail on the head mine handles fine just as well as my mates 1.4 16v and we have the smae suspension set up too. Although it is a tad more front heavier its not as bad as people make out. I mean how often do you actually take your car out on the track to notice this?

stop jumping on the badwagon the exra weight at the front is no more than another passenger....

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