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My new tune, 55 Ten (dont ask why i called it that, i havnt got a clue) - ive uploaded a rough state version, so the volume differs slightly in places and it isnt mastered that well etc etc
Anyways let me know what you lot think 
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Antz
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Man that is fucking whicked!!... get it finished off and I'll be sure to punt it off to FNP and Alex Pepper and the likes if you want?
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Man that is fucking whicked!!... get it finished off and I'll be sure to punt it off to FNP and Alex Pepper and the likes if you want?
cheers boss
Yea i though it wasnt bad, but im not that happy with it tbh - the pads/strings are weak as and the overall structure is a bit bollox personally (bit repeatative in places i think)....
But yea, ill carry on working on it over the next week or so and try and put a bit of polish to it
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Originally posted by Antz
Man that is fucking whicked!!... get it finished off and I'll be sure to punt it off to FNP and Alex Pepper and the likes if you want?
cheers boss
Yea i though it wasnt bad, but im not that happy with it tbh - the pads/strings are weak as and the overall structure is a bit bollox personally (bit repeatative in places i think)....
But yea, ill carry on working on it over the next week or so and try and put a bit of polish to it
It's great so far... I'll get them to play it when it's finished at one of their smaller night... Saturday or Thursday, and have them send me feedback... they are always up for playing stuff by lesser known producers.
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Originally posted by Antz
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Originally posted by Dom
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Originally posted by Antz
Man that is fucking whicked!!... get it finished off and I'll be sure to punt it off to FNP and Alex Pepper and the likes if you want?
cheers boss
Yea i though it wasnt bad, but im not that happy with it tbh - the pads/strings are weak as and the overall structure is a bit bollox personally (bit repeatative in places i think)....
But yea, ill carry on working on it over the next week or so and try and put a bit of polish to it
It's great so far... I'll get them to play it when it's finished at one of their smaller night... Saturday or Thursday, and have them send me feedback... they are always up for playing stuff by lesser known producers.
Yea, its my first decent complete tune for about a year (maybe more) and ive just recently got some new monitors (studio flat line speakers) so ive been putting them through their paces etc
But tar boss, ill drop you a u2u when i get it finished 
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Dom
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ttt - nearly 20 people have downloaded this, where the comments you cooonts? 
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Aaron02
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good work...what did u use to make it?
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good work...what did u use to make it?
all done in fruityloops (has the cackest sound engine ever though but still) and about 5 grands worth of plugins/samples and a few bits of outboard gear
although i might take it all into Sonar or Cubase (may use Protools if i can be asked to install it and buy some decent compressor/limiter plugins) for mixing/mastering/structure, depends if i can get a good enough mix and sound from Fruityloops
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where do u get all ur samples from then...are they with the software?
[Edited on 25-02-2005 by Aaron02]
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where do u get all ur samples from then...are they with the software?
[Edited on 25-02-2005 by Aaron02]
bought software and sample CDs - Also have downloaded a few from samplecity.net and other places
Although alot of stuff i use in tracks have been compressed/EQ's etc to death - take the reverse swoosh sounds from this track, that is a cymbal crash from a yamaha kit with an added pitch slide and loads and loads of reverb. I think it came out pretty well, although it starts to crackle towards the end with the sample being stretch so much 
what you using mate? I remember you just starting to get into production etc
Personally i would stay away from Fruityloops - its great for doing beats etc, but mastering and mix is a right pain as automation isnt that great. However, ver 5 is suppose to be a LOT better...but ive yet to upgrade. I would grab something like reason (more expensive) but does have a decent sound engine and offers similar sampling bits like FL. Or run something like FL and a decent editor like sonar/cubase and then once you have created all of yours parts in FL, bounce them down to wav file and load them into your editor for mixing/structure/mastering etc etc
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I'm getting to grips with Adobe Audition 1.5...i need more loops and samples tho...my collection is a bit poor at the moment
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dave17
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cant DL it dom? aye fruity is shite for mixing/eq'ing. i used to import it all into logic, used to take ages tho
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ahh it worked, listenin now
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I'm getting to grips with Adobe Audition 1.5...i need more loops and samples tho...my collection is a bit poor at the moment
aye, that just a sound editor and multi-tracker - get yourself something like reason or something mate, as you will beable to create your own drum loops etc from samples rather than using loops etc
Dave - yea FL isnt the best, i have got to grips with automation though, but something like protools cains its arse all over the show for audio work though. But like you said, its a very long process and can drag after a while
Never used logic, and have never managed to get my hands on the old pc versions - but it any good? Shame its gone to Mac now though instead of being both
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How much is reason....i've seen it in action and it looks really good....also looks expensive
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ok, gona b honest here:
intro is WAAAAAYYY too long, dont get into the breakdown until 2 mins, and for those 2 mins there isnt alot happening. the 1st intro is nice, but other than that its pretty basic, need so extra effects in there, and cut down dramatically.
the breakdown is nice, but again, WAY too long, nearly 2 mins unil it drops.
and the drop isnt that great either, u need a snare running through until the drop, to create some energy.
once it does drop, the kick is no way thumpy enough, u need to FEEL it. also add an off beat bass to accpmany the stings. The high strings get a bit repetative too, its like the track is stuck record
it needs more breakdowns, beat changes, booms, effects, percussion changes, string effects messed up with (phazers, reverbs etc)
obviously thats my opinion 
but uve got a nice base ther, jus needs shortening ALOT and more put into it, u want to keep the listener interested, wondering whats next.
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sounds good, could do with some decent female vocals
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Originally posted by Dave17
ok, gona b honest here:
intro is WAAAAAYYY too long, dont get into the breakdown until 2 mins, and for those 2 mins there isnt alot happening. the 1st intro is nice, but other than that its pretty basic, need so extra effects in there, and cut down dramatically.
the breakdown is nice, but again, WAY too long, nearly 2 mins unil it drops.
and the drop isnt that great either, u need a snare running through until the drop, to create some energy.
once it does drop, the kick is no way thumpy enough, u need to FEEL it. also add an off beat bass to accpmany the stings. The high strings get a bit repetative too, its like the track is stuck record
it needs more breakdowns, beat changes, booms, effects, percussion changes, string effects messed up with (phazers, reverbs etc)
obviously thats my opinion
but uve got a nice base ther, jus needs shortening ALOT and more put into it, u want to keep the listener interested, wondering whats next.
aye lad, i think the front bit is too long as well - but im trying steer away from the usual, intro two breakdowns etc etc that most dance/trance songs have.
Yup the breakdown sucks and the whole snare thing, nice TR808 snare used, is more than shit  But i think ill add a running kick (ie: 2/4, 1/4) as well during the breakdowns and use more filtering at those points.
Aye, the pads are weak as and so im thinking drop in another with an lower octave and widen them in the stereo field to give the whole song more width ill give it ago using a phaser or flange on the pads/strings, especially during the breakdown section.
Things that i wasnt sure about was the drop kicks (booms), i thought it became repetative after a while...but again ill play around
Yea, during the main sections etc the kick is abit weak, but the due to lack of propper mastering - automation, volume changes etc etc But ill will loosen the compression and EQ on the kick and tweak it to fit into the bass alittle better
Its far from finished mate, but cheers for that as there are some real useful pointers to add to my already full A4 sheet of stuff to do on it
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sounds good, could do with some decent female vocals
that might be in the pipe line, not sure yet - depends if i can get a decent mic and vocalist. Although it would lift the whole track quite abit...soo
aaron02 - yea reason is expensive mate Its about 300-400 quid, but you do get a few gigs worth of samples and a few decent plugins etc etc. Although it can be had alot cheaper if you know what i mean 
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go 2 Fx on the kick, and use the Bass Boost filter, always worked for me 
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Jim1.6
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quite impressive! would like to hear it with vocals in the breakdown and with harder baseline but think its a very good start.
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Dom
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go 2 Fx on the kick, and use the Bass Boost filter, always worked for me
lol
Ill try and boost the kick abit in the 100Hz region and see whats happens But ive already EQ'd quite abit to stop it bleeding into the basslines (there are two that make it up) and casuing 'mud', so ive had to cut alot under 60Hz and drop it a tad around the magical 250Hz. But i think its mainly to do with lack of volume and the fact that its a punchy and sharp kick rather than a bouncy kick used in most hard dance/trance tracks etc
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