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4th Feb 05 at 14:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

what are these like? i just saw 1 at dealer for £9999, new? or maybe pre reg
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Yes they are nice and nippy
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slow for the power the have. probably handle well though
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stats plz
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F00k me that is a quality price new or pre reg!!!

I think they are very very nice, ok they aint the clio cup, type r beater but they were not designed to be. They are good handling cars with good performance, good looks and decent running costs. People will have to wait for the Fiesta RS if they want sub 7.5 sec to 60 performance..

[Edited on 04-02-2005 by Dean_H]
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ST150 will be a very nice all round package. Low factory bhp should be an indication of tuning potential.

ST150 will take away any last hope Vauxhall had of making a sporty Corsa C a success.
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ST150 handle like shat according to Reports.

There will never be a Sporty Corsa C - the Corsa D is the one to wait for.
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http://www.topgear.com/jsp/individualRoadTest.jsp?carType=NEW&mCode=B4&rCode=A0&mDesc=Ford&rDesc=Fiesta&roadTestNumber=12_01.html
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quote:
Originally posted by Dean_H
F00k me that is a quality price new or pre reg!!!

I think they are very very nice, ok they aint the clio cup, type r beater but they were not designed to be. They are good handling cars with good performance, good looks and decent running costs. People will have to wait for the Fiesta RS if they want sub 7.5 sec to 60 performance..

[Edited on 04-02-2005 by Dean_H]


Not making the RS anymore mate - isues with cost as they lost money on every RS focus they made hence not willing to do the same with the fiesta
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ford ent making an RS they have opted for the ST.

they decided the RS would be to expensive.

Source: Ford dealer
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quote:
Originally posted by mattwhite
ford ent making an RS they have opted for the ST.

they decided the RS would be to expensive.

Source: Ford dealer


Just said that mate
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You both posted at the same time, he wouldn't have seen your reply whilst he was typing his.
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quote:
Originally posted by Joff
You both posted at the same time, he wouldn't have seen your reply whilst he was typing his.


Just noticed that mate

Sorry mattwhite
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When was it decided that the RS was not going to be made as i heard roughly a month ago a different story.
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shame though...Ford have slowly been ging down hill from the legendery days of the 80s-90s with the XR3i's RS Turbos, Sierra 3 dr cossies and the escort cossie.

Supose it must be down to not being able to mass produce a reasonably priced hot hatch like the RST was back in the day. The RS focus was a flop due to the 20K price tag more than anything.
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quote:
Originally posted by whitter45
quote:
Originally posted by Joff
You both posted at the same time, he wouldn't have seen your reply whilst he was typing his.


Just noticed that mate

Sorry mattwhite


Yes, you apologise Bad whitter, shame on you.
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About two weeks ago was in Autocar

They lost money on the Focus and would need to build the fiesta RS in big numbers to break even which they are not prepared to do
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quote:
Originally posted by whitter45
About two weeks ago was in Autocar

They lost money on the Focus and would need to build the fiesta RS in big numbers to break even which they are not prepared to do


LOST MONEY ON THE FOCUS? its been practically no.1 best selling car each month since it was released in 1998!

Or you talking about the new focus? how can you say they are losing money on the new focus it was only released this month?

[Edited on 04-02-2005 by Dean_H]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dean_H
quote:
Originally posted by whitter45
About two weeks ago was in Autocar

They lost money on the Focus and would need to build the fiesta RS in big numbers to break even which they are not prepared to do


LOST MONEY ON THE FOCUS? its been practically no.1 best selling car each month since it was released in 1998!

Or you talking about the new focus? how can you say they are losing money on the new focus it was only released this month?

[Edited on 04-02-2005 by Dean_H]


On about the RS Focus

They had to widen the track of the production line to build it hence stop production of the normal focus.
Also the robots couldn't handle the Recaro seats hence the RS was buily with normal focus seats with guys at the end of the production line taking out the seats and replacing them with recaro
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and when i say lost money I mean only on the RS. ie it cost more to make the RS than the 20k price tag for all 4400
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quote:
Originally posted by Dean_H
When was it decided that the RS was not going to be made as i heard roughly a month ago a different story.


I read it in the press at the end of last year. They couldn't make enough money on the RS.
http://www.rs-ford.co.uk/fiesta-rs.htm


However they're still promoting with the concept.
http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/geneva_2004/29/


ST150 won't be hardcore, but it's a welcome addition to the hot hatch market (ignoring the super hatches like the Focus, Astra, Golf, Breadvan, etc).

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quote:
Originally posted by Dean_H
quote:
Originally posted by whitter45
About two weeks ago was in Autocar

They lost money on the Focus and would need to build the fiesta RS in big numbers to break even which they are not prepared to do


LOST MONEY ON THE FOCUS? its been practically no.1 best selling car each month since it was released in 1998!

Or you talking about the new focus? how can you say they are losing money on the new focus it was only released this month?




Focus RS. They lost about £4.5k on each one

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EVO said the engine is noisy/thrashy i think and didn't sound too good

Not a good start if you ask me,look nice though in RS blue
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Thrashy? WTF is thrashy supposed to be
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I work for Ford, these STs are the dogz... Look good, and drive good. £9995 is too good to be true really, we have a waiting list for them

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