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hazey-corsa
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4th Feb 05 at 13:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Im not realli fond of Saxo's but Im goin to have a look at a VTR this afternoon, as Im desperate to find a new car and want something with a bit of go but npot to bad on insurance and reliable,and it seems to be the only answer.

Wot are peoples opinions and does anyone know what sort of things I should be lookin out for?
Teddy
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4th Feb 05 at 13:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If your not fond of it why even look at it?
hazey-corsa
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4th Feb 05 at 14:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Because I want the power of it. and I cannot find anything else which is a hatchback and matches it for insurance and performance.
Marc D
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4th Feb 05 at 14:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

fiesta zetec-s is much better imo. more reliable, same performance if not a touch better, looks nicer, handles better etc
Marc
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Whats wrong with a 1.6 Sport/GSi?
3CorsaMeal
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ask Evisu he just sold his one
3CorsaMeal
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i don't know him btw
Teddy
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4th Feb 05 at 14:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The Corsa GSi is group 12 to Start with.

The VTR is only 7. Nothing can touch it in the insurance bracket.
stuartmitchell
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you get a lot of car for your money however I personally hate them with a passion


Teddy
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4th Feb 05 at 14:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yep i cant stand em either.

But for the TOTAL all round package of insurance costs, running costs etc... nothing can touch it.

Even the Nova GSi is group 11.

but the VTS is grps 14! work that out.
Marc D
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zetec-s is group 8 1.6 16v 103bhp
broster
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quote:
Originally posted by Teddy
Yep i cant stand em either.

But for the TOTAL all round package of insurance costs, running costs etc... nothing can touch it.

Even the Nova GSi is group 11.

but the VTS is grps 14! work that out.

vts is alot faster tho isnt it, faster than a gsi and thats group 12 did you say
TNM
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quote:
Originally posted by stuartmitchell
you get a lot of car for your money however I personally hate them with a passion





So you drive a 106 . . .which is made in the same factory . . by the same people . . using the same bits. . erm ok
Dean_H
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zetec s perforance is roughly the same as the vtr with roughly the same insurance group.

I would prefer a zetec s, less common better looking but the interior is dreadful, i prefer the phase 1 to 2
Teddy
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quote:
Originally posted by broster
quote:
Originally posted by Teddy
Yep i cant stand em either.

But for the TOTAL all round package of insurance costs, running costs etc... nothing can touch it.

Even the Nova GSi is group 11.

but the VTS is grps 14! work that out.

vts is alot faster tho isnt it, faster than a gsi and thats group 12 did you say


Yep but the difference in insurance groups is actually DOUBLE.

Grp 7 - VTR 1.6 8v
Grp 14 - VTS 1.6 16v

Only difference is 20bhp.
I suppose "nickability" comes into it as well.
broster
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4th Feb 05 at 16:19   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

insurance companies for you
Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by TNM
quote:
Originally posted by stuartmitchell
you get a lot of car for your money however I personally hate them with a passion





So you drive a 106 . . .which is made in the same factory . . by the same people . . using the same bits. . erm ok


I drive a 106 gti - made in the same factory, by the same people, with the same bits - but I still hate Saxo's and the people who drive them.

106 gti's are rarer than saxo's and styled nicer in my opinion and generally not driven by as many chavs as saxo's.
Fad
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc D
fiesta zetec-s is much better imo. more reliable, same performance if not a touch better, looks nicer, handles better etc


i'd rather have to saxo the Zetec S is well lethargic.

My bro just picked up a black 02 VTR with 18K miles for 3.5K drove it for a few days and it feels quite pokey for what it is. Interior and quality is suspect but if you want a cheap run around thats a bargain im both the performance and money stakes you cant go far wrong.
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc D
zetec-s is group 8 1.6 16v 103bhp


Thats what Ford say, standard RR'd ones have around 110-115bhp.
Marc D
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4th Feb 05 at 17:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

zetec-s:

The hottest Fiesta will bow out shortly before a new three-door arrives later in 2002, so you can still bag one. And there's lots of good reasons to do just that. The Zetec S is immensely enjoyable to drive, with one of the best supermini chassis around. Apart from fab steering and rally-style lift-off oversteer on demand, you get an engine that's revvy and keen, and, although outright speed isn't great, there's fun aplenty in the bends. Of course, it looks dated and the cabin is cramped, but you can't have everything - well, not 'til the new model arrives.
hazey-corsa
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4th Feb 05 at 17:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just been to see it.

Feels a lot smaller than my old corsa but it quite fast, had a quick go on the by pass in it

Its in very good condition and the bird who owns it seems to have taken care of it, also shes pretty fit

Just been ringin up about insurance I can get insured TPFT for £1150 and got my mate to ring up with nearly same info for a quote on my old 1.2 sxi and that was £970.

For the money Ill defo be gettina saxo despite the fact that I do not like em that much and think most drivers of saxo's are chav asss--hoooles
stuartmitchell
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quote:
Originally posted by TNM
quote:
Originally posted by stuartmitchell
you get a lot of car for your money however I personally hate them with a passion





So you drive a 106 . . .which is made in the same factory . . by the same people . . using the same bits. . erm ok


different styling all together though and common as fuck
bluxton
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc D
zetec-s is group 8 1.6 16v 103bhp


Book figures. I've seen many go on the rollers and they all produced more than 110bhp. Some with exhaust and filters that produced upto 118bhp too.
Cybermonkey
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28th Feb 05 at 05:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeah and they still can't pull the skin off a rice pudding. 1.6 engine is fucking awful
Ren
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^^ nice wording

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