Jodi_the_g
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I am going to get shot down for this
But god i hate them and most of the things they stand for.
Woman on telly the father has never seen his child wants nothing to do with them, but still has to pay.
This gets me angery he is techinally a sperm donor nothing more but it cost him for the rest of his life.
If the father sees the child and wants them then fair enough but not if he never wants to see it.
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Robbo
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Perhaps BUT he still has the responsibility in that he still fathered the child... now my problem would be where he says that he wanted the woman to have an abortion but she solely decided to keep the baby... then I think he should be absolved but how do you document that in a legal system :S
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Jodi_the_g
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Originally posted by Robbo
Perhaps BUT he still has the responsibility in that he still fathered the child... now my problem would be where he says that he wanted the woman to have an abortion but she solely decided to keep the baby... then I think he should be absolved but how do you document that in a legal system :S
Sign a form before or straight after the child is born saying he wants nothing to do with them.
Yeah but she could have a kid with a sperm doner which is what technialcy what he is on a one night stand. And the sperm donor does not pay.
I think its becuase the woman had a couple of kids with different fathers that got me pissed off.
the CSA advice should be keep your legs shut slag.
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Half Pint
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fuck it shoot em all !
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Coblet
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CSA = ?
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Jodi_the_g
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Child Support Acengy
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eightball
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Originally posted by Jodi_the_g
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Originally posted by Robbo
Perhaps BUT he still has the responsibility in that he still fathered the child... now my problem would be where he says that he wanted the woman to have an abortion but she solely decided to keep the baby... then I think he should be absolved but how do you document that in a legal system :S
Sign a form before or straight after the child is born saying he wants nothing to do with them.
Yeah but she could have a kid with a sperm doner which is what technialcy what he is on a one night stand. And the sperm donor does not pay.
I think its becuase the woman had a couple of kids with different fathers that got me pissed off.
the CSA advice should be keep your legs shut slag.
...or perhaps he should keep his cock in his pants? is the suggestion that the guy has nothing to do with the conception of the kid, and it's all the womans doing? the csa was set up to protect the important party in the equation - the child. so that idiots who aren't capable of controlling themselves/using contraception/taking reaponsibility for their actions (and i mean either party) can GTF with their 'victim' nonsense. in the case of guys saying they 'never knew about the kid' - i'm sure there are cases where there are extenuating circumstances, but the facts remain; the vast majority of the population are well aware that unprotected sex possibly may lead to pregnancy, and there is no excuse for shirking responsibilty for a life you had a fair share in creating.
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Angie
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I agree with you eightball. If you don't wanna pay for a kid, the only way to be sure is to not have sex in the first place.
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Dom
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Originally posted by Angie
I agree with you eightball. If you don't wanna pay for a kid, the only way to be sure is to not have sex in the first place.
what a lame arse remark  so your saying no one should have sex if they dont want kids??!?!? and i take it you follow this then?? 
what pissed me off with all of this is the fact that usually the father of the child is the one that gets the blame and has to fork cash out for a kid he didnt want etc etc I mean, if it was the other way around, with the woman earning the most and the father looking after the kid, the CSA would never get the woman to pay for child support!
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Jodi_the_g
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thats what i was trying to say and this woman had two kids with two different fathers neither want a child so why should they pay the father is the victem not the child.
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Angie
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Originally posted by Dom
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Originally posted by Angie
I agree with you eightball. If you don't wanna pay for a kid, the only way to be sure is to not have sex in the first place.
what a lame arse remark so your saying no one should have sex if they dont want kids??!?!? and i take it you follow this then??
what pissed me off with all of this is the fact that usually the father of the child is the one that gets the blame and has to fork cash out for a kid he didnt want etc etc I mean, if it was the other way around, with the woman earning the most and the father looking after the kid, the CSA would never get the woman to pay for child support!
Thats because women have to pay for the kids whatever.
I'm just saying take responsibility for your actions.
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rustyarchs
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least they have a choice wether they want 1 or not!!! how many guys do want to be dads yet the woman have had an abortion anyway??
why drag some1 who has no love for a kid into the csa?? surely itl just make the father resent the kid,,,sounds like such a good idea that 
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Dom
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Originally posted by Angie
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Originally posted by Dom
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Originally posted by Angie
I agree with you eightball. If you don't wanna pay for a kid, the only way to be sure is to not have sex in the first place.
what a lame arse remark so your saying no one should have sex if they dont want kids??!?!? and i take it you follow this then??
what pissed me off with all of this is the fact that usually the father of the child is the one that gets the blame and has to fork cash out for a kid he didnt want etc etc I mean, if it was the other way around, with the woman earning the most and the father looking after the kid, the CSA would never get the woman to pay for child support!
Thats because women have to pay for the kids whatever.
I'm just saying take responsibility for your actions.
how you work that one out???
if the woman doesnt want the kid then get an abortion simple as - and it DOES take two to tango, so if one of the partners forgets to wear a jonny then the other should say something - if neither do, then its BOTH at fault, not just the bloke
tbh, its sound like your all for women having equal rights...but then anything to do with children, you believe that its the mans fault
with equal rights, comes equal responsibility 
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J da Silva
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Fair enough if the dad is a total bumcheek and refuses to give the mother a penny,then the CSA should rape his ass, however a mate of mine is being stung by the CSA for his young un' but I think it's wrong, basically......
he was with his missus for just over 3 years, she got pregnant, he was excited for the baby arriving and everything, when their bairn was 7months old, he got a phone call from his mate one day saying his lass has been fucking some lad in the same village, so everything came out in the open, he tried to work it out for his baby's sake, but she felt things were ruined and went off with this fella she'd been seeing, anyways as time went by he tried sorting arrangements too see his kid on certain days, but she'd never let him see the kid and if he called round to her house, her fella would threaten him if he went near his own baby. so he's been banned by his ex, he can't go near the house to see it anyway in fear of starting a fight (hes a tough cunt and would easily wipe the floor with this lad but what good would it do?)
she contacted the CSA and they sting him for 25% of his wages 
who agrees with that?
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Dom
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Fair enough if the dad is a total bumcheek and refuses to give the mother a penny,then the CSA should rape his ass, however a mate of mine is being stung by the CSA for his young un' but I think it's wrong, basically......
he was with his missus for just over 3 years, she got pregnant, he was excited for the baby arriving and everything, when their bairn was 7months old, he got a phone call from his mate one day saying his lass has been fucking some lad in the same village, so everything came out in the open, he tried to work it out for his baby's sake, but she felt things were ruined and went off with this fella she'd been seeing, anyways as time went by he tried sorting arrangements too see his kid on certain days, but she'd never let him see the kid and if he called round to her house, her fella would threaten him if he went near his own baby. so he's been banned by his ex, he can't go near the house to see it anyway in fear of starting a fight (hes a tough cunt and would easily wipe the floor with this lad but what good would it do?)
she contacted the CSA and they sting him for 25% of his wages
who agrees with that?
aye, this is what me and jodi are both talking about.....if i was in that situation i would get evidence that he isnt allowed to see his own child, even though he wants too, and take it further 
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Jodi_the_g
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Total disagree if you are paying for a childs upbringing you should be able to see the child, make dissuions on its up bringing etc.
Would you pay for a timeshare you never went to.
[Edited on 26-01-2005 by Jodi_the_g]
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Angie
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Lol I'm not into equal rights i'm just trying to see it from the legal perspective.
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Karen
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Im currently dealing with the CSA over Rhys 
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Joff
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I thought CSA was that channel 5 cop programme? They had a Miami spin off?
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Jodi_the_g
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lol thats CSI
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Carr
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Originally posted by Joff
I thought CSA was that channel 5 cop programme? They had a Miami spin off?
and a new new york one coming soon
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Joff
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lol thats CSI
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Joff
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Originally posted by Carr
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Originally posted by Joff
I thought CSA was that channel 5 cop programme? They had a Miami spin off?
and a new new york one coming soon
I once saw a guy take on a whole team of armoured van robbers with just a pistol. I was in awe of his stupidity and also his bullet-proof skin.
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eightball
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Originally posted by Jodi_the_g
Total disagree if you are paying for a childs upbringing you should be able to see the child, make dissuions on its up bringing etc.
Would you pay for a timeshare you never went to.
[Edited on 26-01-2005 by Jodi_the_g]
so it comes down to money? a child is not a timeshare; a material possession whose value can be put into £! the bottom line (which you seem to be ignoring) is that a child cannot provide for itself. more often than not it is the mother who is left holding the baby (no pun intended). the csa was not set up for a laugh, and to spoil peoples fun; it was conceived from need - the need to slap moron parents right where it hurts them most (then at least their kid can get something positive from them). as for the guy who can't get to see his kid - i'd assume he's upset because he can't see them, and be part of their lives, rather than he's not getting his moneys worth. the bottom line is; if you were responsible for the creation of a life, you are responsible for it's care, wellbeing and happiness. the end.
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Originally posted by Carr
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Originally posted by Joff
I thought CSA was that channel 5 cop programme? They had a Miami spin off?
and a new new york one coming soon
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