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Author I would rather have crashed
Tom N
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   26th Jan 05 at 08:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Last night, driving to Harrogate, the road there is for the vast majority a derestricted zone on straight country roads with a few villages with a 30 limit. The second village we came to, where there is a big 30 sign and red tarmac to slow you down i heard a large bang.

i thought it was just my exhaust popping, but a bit louder!
infact i had obviously hit something like a brick, because there are no speed bumps.

i then pulled up just out of the village after the car started losing power and then stopped. there was a massive oil slick coming from under the car, loads of smoke from under the bonnet and it wouldnt start.

it appears i have cracked the sump off and i before i look at it today, i think there is a lot of internal damage.

anyway i still absolutely caned a repmobile 3 series on the way

Moral:
dont lower your car too much if you have a big engine, the sump is too close to the ground!!

what should i do?

[Edited on 26-01-2005 by t-gangsta]
MarkM
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26th Jan 05 at 09:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Get a new sump seems the logical step...
Tom N
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26th Jan 05 at 09:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
yes but, the car wont even turn over, all the lights majorly dim when i try starting it.

it points to something bad in my eyes!

maybe im just being pessimistic
AK
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26th Jan 05 at 09:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
did you run it 'dry' ??

best bet would be to check for any seisure/scoring etc, if ok whap a new sump on.... flush the engine, fill with new oil and away you go
AK
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26th Jan 05 at 09:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by t-gangsta
yes but, the car wont even turn over, all the lights majorly dim when i try starting it.

it points to something bad in my eyes!

maybe im just being pessimistic


you are trying to start you car with no oil

go on yerself
Tom N
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26th Jan 05 at 09:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote


im going to check for seisure today.

you're probably right tho! i will hopefully just need a new sump
AK
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26th Jan 05 at 09:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i think you have seized it....

If you ground to a halt after the bang...
If the car wont turn over...
Tom N
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26th Jan 05 at 09:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
hmm

i will have a look soon.

what annoys me is that i had just got it running fine.

i even bought some new mainfold bolts yesterday
£20 for some bolts
LukeGSi
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26th Jan 05 at 09:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Oh dear........
Tom
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26th Jan 05 at 10:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
harsh on you mate but ffs why you trying to start it with no oil in
Siberia
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26th Jan 05 at 11:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
get under and check the sump see what damage is there... and please stop trying to start it with no oil.... could be a bit late though
Red_SXi
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26th Jan 05 at 11:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
It wont start cos there's no oil in it
AK
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26th Jan 05 at 11:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
no..... it would 'start' if there is no oil..... would just grind metal against metal though.....

which i think has already been done when 'car started losing power and then stopped. there was a massive oil slick coming from under the car, loads of smoke from under the bonnet and it wouldnt start'

i think its seized already as you say it wont turn over, i take that to mean the starter isnt turning anything.... its stuck fast, or are you meaning its not 'catching' ???
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26th Jan 05 at 11:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by t-gangsta
Moral:
dont lower your car too much if you have a big engine, the sump is too close to the ground!!


or fit a decent guard
Paul_J
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26th Jan 05 at 12:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
You'd have thought it would of knocked your bumper off if it hit the sump? never thought about that sorta thing before though.
TOMAS
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26th Jan 05 at 12:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
You plonker, sounds like a dead engine. Next time you hear a whack from underneath it will cost you 1-2 mins to just stop getout and have a look and ffs if there is a big leak then DONT drive it. I cracked my sump on a raised iron work near where I live but got out to have a look and realised oil everywhere. Mate went home and got placcy bags/duct tape and about 10 litres of oil that I had in the garage. Cleaned up the sump with rags, duck tape over the crack/dent and placcy bags and more duct tape, filled her back up and hey presto I got home fine...
AK
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26th Jan 05 at 12:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
...or just get towed....

The xe sumps sits below the bumper line and ARB line.... very low... i've hit mine off rocks etc before

smashed my diff casing on a F13gearbox with a rock too
TOMAS
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Yeah obviously towed is easy if you have a mate/tow rope or breakdown cover - which I dont.
Greg_M
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26th Jan 05 at 14:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
some people do this for fun, leaving bricks in the road, and even embeding them in tarmac so you cant see them.

its just stupid. think there was someone on here say that they had done it
Tom N
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26th Jan 05 at 15:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
^^^ i cant believe people do this on purpose.

anyway, just to clear things up, i didnt try driving it after! i pulled up about 300yards after i realised there was something wrong.

had a look with a torch when my dad came to tow me home and the bit where the sump plug goes is ripped clean off!

the starter does catch yes, but its stuck.

going to try turn it over manually at the crank.

tbh i think its fcuked
AK
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26th Jan 05 at 15:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
.... i meant does it catch as in turn, but not ignite...

you aswered anyway..... i'd say it is goosed
Tom N
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26th Jan 05 at 15:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i think i will be returning to standard then to sell it, along with 1.0
Siberia
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26th Jan 05 at 15:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
shame... sexy car...
Tom N
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26th Jan 05 at 15:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
dont say that!

still nice to know

you will make me want to keep it and spend stupid amounts on it to keep it
Siberia
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26th Jan 05 at 15:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
500 quid on a new engine... or £1000's of a new motor.... i know what i'd choose.

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