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moddedcorsa
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5th Jan 05 at 18:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hi, im very seriously thibnking about getting a basic corsa, and carrying out an engine conversion as a cheap fun project for the next 3 months.

Ive a few options,But what one?

FIRST OPTION
get a cav with c20seh, 2.0 8v 130 bhp
good points,
I can get this for under 100,
slightly cheaper insurance than c20xe
easily tuned
easily rebuilt

bad points,
Doesnt have the "wow" factor for shows etc
slower than c20xe


SECOND OPTION:
c20xe from a mk3 cav sri
good points:
Fast strong engine,(motorsport heritage)
looks good in engine bay (shows etc)
can be further tuned quite alot

Bad points,
Car will cost me at least 500
harder to rebuild
more complicated conversion (will have to shorten drive shaft and machine hubs, but im an engineer, and can do this, so not soo important)
slightly more on insurance

3rd option
nova 1.6 engine (not quite as keen on this performance wise, but least its a bit different??)



What do you think

ps sorry 4 the long post





[Edited on 05-01-2005 by moddedcorsa]
modded_corsa
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5th Jan 05 at 19:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

option ONE

may not look as nice as the c20xe but.....can be made to look nice with a bit of powder coating....silicon hoses etc etc

easier to fit aswell........

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cheers, any more opinions ppl?

any1 got pics of 2.0 8v in corsa's?
corsa_jim
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I was goin to do this the 2.0l 8v conversion but just been offered a nova gsi motor n bits so thats goin in for now lol

Jim
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let us know how u get on, and what its like to drive
ed
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You would need to use all the same conversion parts, including the driveshafts and hubs for the 8v as you would with the 16v. They are more or less the same engine with a different head on the outside and they use a big block gearbox which needs the bigger CV's and shortened driveshafts.
ed
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Oh, apart from the power cap, that isn't needed...
moddedcorsa
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I was under the impression that the f16 gearbox, shafts, hubs etc could be used? (as they can withstand the torque etc) and simply bolts on?

As i was gonna buy a corsa b with the c20seh conversion where the f16 parts had been used?

also what mounts are used?

[Edited on 05-01-2005 by moddedcorsa]
ed
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An F16 gearbox is a big block gearbox. You will need all of the big block gearbox parts to use it, so hubs, CV's and shafts. Same as a 2.0 16v conversion.....
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You use the Corsa 2.0 front engine mount and the Corsa gearbox mounts - possibly with the rear gearbox spacer... Not sure what its for though

[Edited on 05-01-2005 by 1800ed]
ed
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You need these things:

moddedcorsa
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Right, well i was under the impression that the f16 box was used in the corsa gsi?
ed
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Nope, that's the F15.
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ahh ok, thank you, post edited
ed
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Also, don't get a Nova 1.6 engine, thats a silly idea. Get a Corsa 1.6 engine. You want fuel injection not carbs.
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nova gsis were injection only 8v tho
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quote:
Originally posted by 1800ed
Also, don't get a Nova 1.6 engine, thats a silly idea. Get a Corsa 1.6 engine. You want fuel injection not carbs.


was just i could get hold of one for pennies. But the c20xe conversion is tempting at the mo, just as much work as 2.0 8v, but more power (wee bit more on insurance, but u only live once)

Ideally id get the c16xe on throttle bodies,(fast, good handling, sound amazing) but thats way 2 expensive!

 
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