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drunkenfool
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12th Nov 04 at 01:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Is there any point in getting one of these on a lightly modded XE? (exhaust, induction and 4-1 maniifold) What are the benefits apart from its physically less weight to lug around, and could it make the car drive poorly around town etc?
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12th Nov 04 at 07:25   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yes get one, i shall be getting one soon for my 1.6, ment to totally change the accleration curve, no you wont suffer and losse of drivability round town etc......do you know anyone with one? i did alot of reading into it, as did greasemonkey and they are worth it..
CorsAsh
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12th Nov 04 at 08:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

will rev much quicker, but it may not maintain speed as well up hills etc from what I've heard...

Yo be gettin custom ones or machining the existing one?
James R
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Get one, motorbike revviness (well not quite) There's a limit to how much you can lighten a std cast one though.
Doesn't make piss all diffeent to "town" driving, only race clutches make lift difficult.
CorsAsh
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12th Nov 04 at 08:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hmmm, not got much on today, might go and chop a few mm off mine with the trusty angle grinder, can do it by eye

broster
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quote:
Originally posted by CorsAsh
Hmmm, not got much on today, might go and chop a few mm off mine with the trusty angle grinder, can do it by eye




YES WHEN YOU FINISH DO MINE! lol
CorsAsh
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12th Nov 04 at 08:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Actually, I might just de-flywheel the engine, problem solved. Not like it does anything
Cybermonkey
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12th Nov 04 at 09:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

engine will have to rev harder to get up hills, since the flywheel loses some of its inertia properties when lightened.
ROBSTA
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12th Nov 04 at 09:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

where can you get lightened fly wheels from?
any links?
Joff
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Mine's been machined.
Joff
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
engine will have to rev harder to get up hills, since the flywheel loses some of its inertia properties when lightened.


Easy solution - don't go up hills
Cybermonkey
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quote:
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
engine will have to rev harder to get up hills, since the flywheel loses some of its inertia properties when lightened.


Easy solution - don't go up hills


Live in Milton Keynes, or the Netherlands
Cybermonkey
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could you imagine fitting one to a stock 1.2 8v and go up a hill at 70mph, you would fucking stop half way up
Greasemonkey
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12th Nov 04 at 10:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The gains a fly wheel gives you is a percentage equivalant weight loss, its a calculation based on car weight as standard etc, to put it bluntly 2KG's off a fly wheel on a adverage car will be like a 120kg weight loss in 1st 80kg weight loss in 2nd 35kg's in 3rd then its hardly noticed after this, the lighter fly wheel will be effected by clutch dragg allot more, the clutch will have a fine bite point, so will take gettin used too, only super light flys effect the idle, oh and a quickshift would be a good idea otherwise on gear change the revs will drop so quick you wil be out ya power band once the power is applied again

[Edited on 12-11-2004 by Greasemonkey]
Corsa^Dan
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*thinks how fat he is* well if i lightened my 1.2 8v (ha! yeh right) the car wouldnt have too pull my fat ass...

*gets the drill*
PaulW
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12th Nov 04 at 11:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Joff
Mine's been machined.


how much did this set you back & how much reduction did you have?

I know someone who works on metal so could get it done for the cost of a few pints down the lcoal
psycho sport
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12th Nov 04 at 11:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i fitted a light weight flywheel on my v6 vectra giving it a 10kg reduction in weight. certainly picks up alot quicker and is alot more economical!
Fad
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12th Nov 04 at 11:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

XE's spin up rather easy so unless you have an LSD your going to be spinning up more from standing starts.
Joff
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Originally posted by PaulW
quote:
Originally posted by Joff
Mine's been machined.


how much did this set you back & how much reduction did you have?

I know someone who works on metal so could get it done for the cost of a few pints down the lcoal


It was done when the engine was rebuilt, so was included in the labour. Not sure if it was machined evenly so the flywheel was balanced or anything - whether it makes a difference or not I dunno..
nik
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Have one on the Evo, didn't noticed any performance increase to be honest. Was fitted when I had my paddle clutch done.
Cybermonkey
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nik, your engine probably revs so freely anyway!
CorsAsh
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quote:
Originally posted by Joff
quote:
Originally posted by PaulW
quote:
Originally posted by Joff
Mine's been machined.


how much did this set you back & how much reduction did you have?

I know someone who works on metal so could get it done for the cost of a few pints down the lcoal


It was done when the engine was rebuilt, so was included in the labour. Not sure if it was machined evenly so the flywheel was balanced or anything - whether it makes a difference or not I dunno..


Would have to be machined evenly or your engine would shake itself to bits
nik
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
nik, your engine probably revs so freely anyway!


It does rev a lot more freely now but I think thats down to the exhaust and decat.
3CorsaMeal
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12th Nov 04 at 12:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

mine rev's freely when the front is jacked up
Marc
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12th Nov 04 at 14:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ive got lightened fly wheel and performance clutch.

Its an absolute nightmare in traffic to drive...

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