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langey
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10th Oct 04 at 14:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

remember me saying my sub just stopped working, and then it would beat during a tune but as soon as the bass kicks in, the sub wud just "pop" and not intime to the beat. well i took it out and fucked it off, today i put it back in and and messing around, and if i change the gains on the amp or the boost, it will pay for a little bit and the bass will evan play properly, so the sub cant be fucked can it?? and when i move the rca's it plays too, so anyone think it could be bad rca leadS?? or is the sub still fucked??
langey
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10th Oct 04 at 15:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just had a quick cheack of the rca's seem fine, so really i'm at a loose end, the sub will play but only for a small period of time, the amp aint over heated coz its only just been swtiched back on. anyone any suggestions or ideas whats wrong with this shit?
its like it wants to play but somthing is stopping it.

and when the bass kicks in, the little blue liht on the amp flash's on and off witht the time of the popping noise. and when the sub is just playing the tune (not the bass part) it sounds fine and the little blue light dont flash, just stays on.
Ric_Cav
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10th Oct 04 at 17:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

fautly amp or bad ground perhaps

check your voltage too, if it aint getting a good voltage i.e less that 10-11 volts

[Edited on 10-10-2004 by Ric_Cav]
troublesome
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10th Oct 04 at 19:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

sounds like a ground problem to me, try disconnecting the sub and see if the amp just runs...

im no expert but thats how id go about it
langey
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10th Oct 04 at 22:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well i turned the gains down, had them on full, and now the fucker plays, when i get big bass notes tho, it still goes off, so i turnd it down some more and it plays fine, but aint loud enough lol.
AdiSRI
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10th Oct 04 at 23:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

get a better amp, thats my ADVICE
Richie
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11th Oct 04 at 08:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

sounds like the amp could be damaged or the wiring to the sub with regards to impedence is incorrect.

Could also be grounds ect but id put my money on the amp from what it seems.
langey
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11th Oct 04 at 16:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so my amp wich is only been used for atotal of about 6hours, is fucked??

the way its wired, its 100rms under powering the sub.

AdiSRI
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11th Oct 04 at 17:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

did it work fine at first??

What amp is it?
langey
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11th Oct 04 at 17:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

its a kenwood one, it worked fine from the start, then one day it went off, just just took it out
yesterday i was bored and put it back in, then messed with the gains and stuff, and when the gains are down the sub works, when they are up, it turns off when the bass kicks in
corsa_fella
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   11th Oct 04 at 18:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

invest in a new amp
AdiSRI
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11th Oct 04 at 18:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

that could be the wiring with a short in some way... causing the amp to heat up too much and cut out due to temp cut out...

rich knows more about these sort of wiring problems than i.

But i know a lot of people get this with the alpine monos too, sometimes its the wiring and some times the sub is faulty.
langey
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12th Oct 04 at 16:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well i have o/1guage wire running from the battry then the wire is cut in havf so the other half will just fit onto the terminal, and same witht the ground, the gound is ground under the rear seatbelt buckle bolts.
AdiSRI
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12th Oct 04 at 17:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the wire is cut in half!!

get a couple of fused dizzy blocks, 0 gauge in 2/4 gauge out.
langey
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12th Oct 04 at 18:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

its like this


Richie
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12th Oct 04 at 18:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

mate the ground uve chosen isnt really any good for the power you have. You need to take it back off and sand most of the paint off and keep going until you have bare metal.

And with the 0/1 strands being cut in half, you checked that there arent any strands shorting on other terminals?

Im defo putting my money on the ground now because if it works ok with the gains down, your not making the amp work hard, using much less power.

When you turn the gain up your making the amp work harder, and it looks like its going into its own protection mode, even if its not doing it by the book.
AdiSRI
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12th Oct 04 at 18:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

agreed richie, u ned to get a nice earth contact.

And i am worried about your cutting the wires in half, thats leaving a lot of wire exposed that could short on something, just bite the bullet and buy a couple of dizzy blocks, then redo your earth ansd it should be fine.
langey
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12th Oct 04 at 22:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the end of the cable is all taped up with that insullation tape. i'll sort the earth out 2moz and hope its ok, then i'll sell up.

seems to be a very very bad idea buying ice when your reaked and its 2am thats what i did.

langey
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16th Oct 04 at 12:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

right so i'm powering one sub, with 400rms, and the max power of the amp is about 800watts i think.

what guage cable should i use? and what fuse??

i'll go and buy fresh cable so its not runing throught the middle of the car, an smaller cable will fit to the amp properly.

help asap would be great as i wanna go buy it now
langey
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17th Oct 04 at 13:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

baught a new wiring kit, and re-did it all, earth is on the bolt behind the rear light too. and it still fucks up when i tuern the gains up
Dom
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17th Oct 04 at 14:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by langey
baught a new wiring kit, and re-did it all, earth is on the bolt behind the rear light too. and it still fucks up when i tuern the gains up

replace amp mate and go from there, sounds like that is the one at fault - but personally i would rip it all out, buzz everything out to make sure all the cables are working, then put it back in.

If it stills fooks then, replace amp/sub etc After that, try a different head unit - failing that, take it to your local ICE shop and see what they say
langey
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17th Oct 04 at 14:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

mate everything is brnad new, the amp is brand new, sub is, and evan headunit coz the old one set on fire.

all the wiring has been done again from scratch.

cant afford to be replacing the amp, and stuff.

might just throw it all on ebay.
Dom
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17th Oct 04 at 14:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by langey
mate everything is brnad new, the amp is brand new, sub is, and evan headunit coz the old one set on fire.

all the wiring has been done again from scratch.

cant afford to be replacing the amp, and stuff.

might just throw it all on ebay.


right, well find someone that will allow you to test your equipment in their car and see what happens

Like i said, it might be worth going to your local ICE dealers and see what they say They can usually test the equipment with bench power supplies (ie: outside of the car) so you can see if its something up with car not suppling enough power etc etc

you will probably find its something stupid and little

although i would also try and borrow someone else amp/sub and see if its one of them up the creak
langey
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18th Oct 04 at 18:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

cheers for the help vman

i'll ask my mate about testing his stuff in my car and visversa (sp).

corb
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18th Oct 04 at 21:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the diagnosis to any ice problem:

Its a bad earth

been wanting to say that for ages!

(p.s. not read your post, just one of richie's replys)

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