goldfish
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people that think this is acceptable really piss me off. just a shame it's going to take 2 years in England andd wales to come into affect.
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LukeGSi
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I agree its barbaric and out of date, if culling has to happen it should be humain
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hodaz
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tho i don't like hunting that much, i think the governemnt have considerably more important things to worry about
there just trying to get people on there side for the election by doing sumthing most people don't like
its all shite really
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ed
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When they go hunting though they hardly ever cath foxes. Foxes are vermin, if a dog isn't gonna kill them then they'll just go shoot them, risking blowing the animals leg off and it half dying then, and then die a few days later.
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myke
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it's an age old sport.
people are always going to disagree with it, but just let them be i say.
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goldfish
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Originally posted by 1800ed
When they go hunting though they hardly ever cath foxes. Foxes are vermin, if a dog isn't gonna kill them then they'll just go shoot them, risking blowing the animals leg off and it half dying then, and then die a few days later.
I have no problem with a farmer shooting an animal to protect his stock. I have a problem with tossers chasing an animal then having it torn apart by dogs for their barbaric sadistic pleasure. fox hunting serves no other purpose. in fact it's not even hunting
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goldfish
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Originally posted by myke
it's an age old sport.
people are always going to disagree with it, but just let them be i say.
people will disagree because it's wrong 
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goldfish
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Originally posted by hodaz
tho i don't like hunting that much, i think the governemnt have considerably more important things to worry about
there just trying to get people on there side for the election by doing sumthing most people don't like
its all shite really
actually no. hunting with dogs was one of their election pledges. they have to get it through before the next election
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ed
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I'm not really pro hunting, but the facts are - hunting dogs do not rip the animals apart, they instinctively go for the foxes neck and snap its spine in one clean swoop, the fox dies instantly just like it might do if it were shot in the head. You'll also find that in most communities the hunters theselves are made up of families of the land owners who need thier livestock protecting. Just annoys me how people make thier mind up before knowing the facts.
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myke
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Originally posted by goldfish
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Originally posted by myke
it's an age old sport.
people are always going to disagree with it, but just let them be i say.
people will disagree because it's wrong
no, because they have nothing better to moan about 
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ed
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Originally posted by myke
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Originally posted by myke
it's an age old sport.
people are always going to disagree with it, but just let them be i say.
people will disagree because it's wrong
no, because they have nothing better to moan about
It's that time of year though, when all the silly crap goes through parlement... Forgot what it's called, but there's a name...
The Police pissed me off at the protest - looking at the videos and pictures, I think a few of them were 'seeing red'. They were porperly trying to batter the shit outa the protestors.
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linz
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only one in five times a fox is caught anyway.
if teh fox is healthy it will always get away, its just about always an ill or injured fox which is caught.
What about all the dogs that are going to be killed because of hunting getting banned? never mind goin on about the foxes which are vermen anyway.
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myke
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quote:
Originally posted by 1800edIt's that time of year though, when all the silly crap goes through parlement... Forgot what it's called, but there's a name...
The Police pissed me off at the protest - looking at the videos and pictures, I think a few of them were 'seeing red'. They were porperly trying to batter the shit outa the protestors.
they're officers of the law though.
they're allowed to 
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goldfish
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Originally posted by 1800ed
I'm not really pro hunting, but the facts are - hunting dogs do not rip the animals apart, they instinctively go for the foxes neck and snap its spine in one clean swoop, the fox dies instantly just like it might do if it were shot in the head. You'll also find that in most communities the hunters theselves are made up of families of the land owners who need thier livestock protecting. Just annoys me how people make thier mind up before knowing the facts.
yes you;ve never seen videos of then. they are not hunting the animal. hunting is when you seek out an animal for food. they seek out the animal for fun. nothing else.
my mind is made up because I fail to see how doing such cruel things to an animal can considered to be fun.
teh animal does not die instantly. it is chased till it cannot outrun the dogs no more. if it was to die instantly it would not not know what hit it
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You would know all about hunting dogs because you own one then?
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goldfish
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only one in five times a fox is caught anyway.
if teh fox is healthy it will always get away, its just about always an ill or injured fox which is caught.
What about all the dogs that are going to be killed because of hunting getting banned? never mind goin on about the foxes which are vermen anyway.
foxes are not vermin. they are only doing was it is instictive. the dogs will be hopefully rehomed. if your that worried about the hunting dogs what about all the other dogs inthe cat and dog hones around the country. no mention of them.
if only 1 in 5 are killed how can it be consdered a method of control 
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goldfish
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You would know all about hunting dogs because you own one then?
explain how a Germand shepard dog is a hunting dog. do you actually know anything about the breed or are you just sprouting shit.
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myke
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i think the current law being passed is that the foxes are still allowed to be hunted, but the dogs can only track the target, which needs to be shot by the hunters rather than killed by the dogs.
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linz
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Originally posted by goldfish
foxes are not vermin. they are only doing was it is instictive. the dogs will be hopefully rehomed. if your that worried about the hunting dogs what about all the other dogs inthe cat and dog hones around the country. no mention of them.
if only 1 in 5 are killed how can it be consdered a method of control
The dogs cant be remhomed, they are trained to kill foxes, fair enough they wont chase a rabbit or anything else but they aren't trained to be domesticaed dogs!!
Most people dont go hunting to control the number of foxes, farmers see it as helping too though
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Marc
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The actual hunting dogs arent treated that well either. And are actually fed the older dogs which are no longer fit enough for hunting.
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ed
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Originally posted by goldfish
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You would know all about hunting dogs because you own one then?
explain how a Germand shepard dog is a hunting dog. do you actually know anything about the breed or are you just sprouting shit.
No I was talking about my dogs...
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goldfish
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Originally posted by goldfish
foxes are not vermin. they are only doing was it is instictive. the dogs will be hopefully rehomed. if your that worried about the hunting dogs what about all the other dogs inthe cat and dog hones around the country. no mention of them.
if only 1 in 5 are killed how can it be consdered a method of control
The dogs cant be remhomed, they are trained to kill foxes, fair enough they wont chase a rabbit or anything else but they aren't trained to be domesticaed dogs!!
Most people dont go hunting to control the number of foxes, farmers see it as helping too though
no offense but how many farmers do you actually know. maybe down south it's different but in Scotland they kind of get pissed off when upper class fuckwits come tearing through their land with horses leaving gates open etc etc.
and the dogs can be rehomed
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goldfish
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Originally posted by goldfish
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You would know all about hunting dogs because you own one then?
explain how a Germand shepard dog is a hunting dog. do you actually know anything about the breed or are you just sprouting shit.
No I was talking about my dogs...
god damit I should stop drinking - however I do know about dogs 
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linz
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i know quite a few actually and im not 'down south'
not all people that go hunting are 'upper class fuckiwits' that tear through land. I think you'll find that hunts have designated tracks and do not leave gates open as tehy usually jump over them!
so...no offense but how many hunts have you seen
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linz
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yeh maybe they can be re homed but not many will be
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