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Mikorsa16v
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28th Aug 04 at 14:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Where can i buy one of these kits, looks so new no one is stocking them, on their site they say it is in stock for the 206gti which is what i want






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why does it say a 206 GTi only has 99bhp?
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probably at the wheels
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at the wheels, has 138 at the fly
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quote:
Originally posted by kz
why does it say a 206 GTi only has 99bhp?


if you read it says power at wheels on the graph
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12bhp gain for just a filter???
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quote:
Originally posted by kerzo
12bhp gain for just a filter???



the engien must be really restricted if you gain 12hp just from a cone filter
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well its the same engine as the GTi 180, so yeah it is restricted!
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quote:
Originally posted by Mikorsa16v
well its the same engine as the GTi 180, so yeah it is restricted!



the 180 engine is more than just a airfilter change over the 137 version .
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yeah thats why is doesnt bring it upto 180 eh
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ask joff he works for pipercross, sure hed be able to point you in the right direction, does look good tho
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cheers broster
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no probs
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Get a enclosed induction kit, will give better gains. Apparently the BMC, green and ecosse enclosed ones are good for power gains, Although more expensive than a normal cone filter.
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got to essex racing they do a closed carbon fibre filter very much like the bmc ones looking wise for 40 quid
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The VIS will be with dealers in a week or two, that's why no-one's got any yet but all the part numbers are done so you should be able to get a pre-order in. You might be able to negotiate a better price if you make a nuisance of yourself

The VIS kit above gives better gains over the sealed unit Viper kit because it relocates the filter away from the throttle body.

The concept is simlar to the K&N Typhoon system, but better of course
The Pipercross one uses a lovely carbon fibre intake pipe, with the filter itself utilising the proven vector tip (again, more carbon fibre) with the foam being the same as used in their WRC filters.

The WRC foam is designed to be used in harsher conditions where there's more exposure to dirt, dust and water. Also because of the foam, the filter doesn't need oiling compared to other filters.


The 206 2.0 GTi is a very different engine to the 2.0 GTi 180. The 180 uses variable valve timing, has a clever dual intake system for the throttle body and all many of extra clever shit - so there's no way of upping the standard engine in the hatch/cc to 180 spec.
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how much are these new funky filters, look sweet do they lis trfor the civic vti
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I think the retail is £299 but obviously it's down to the dealer at the end of the day.

Civic should be happening soon... now if only there was a suitable car that could be used for development..
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dude get on msn
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No. MSN smells. It's full of people that smell of wee.
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and poo and fridge
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quote:
Originally posted by broster
and poo and fridge


Right...
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if 50 people are intereste in a corsa one, maybe pipercross will develop one with a suitable development car (ahem... Joffs)
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No, it's more than having just 50 people wanting one.

The VIS typically fits to the throttle body or airflow meter. On something like a C20XE it would be fairly simple but for the 1.4/1.6 16v engines it's not going to happen - the intake would need to start at one side of the engine, go under the inlet manifold and come out the other side.
To fabricate that in carbon fibre, with a hole for the MAP sensor or whatever it is would cost way too much.

The VIS isn't suitable for every car because of this... and in these situations you've got the Viper
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so is the VIS better then the viper?

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