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welshdude
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13th Jul 04 at 21:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I’ve been offered a GSI engine and all the other parts required to do an engine conversion for £300 (including GSI breaks, suspension etc.) I currently have a 1ltr engine.

I spoke to one of my mates who is a mechanic and he reckons that the wiring could be a problem (Although the engine is the later ecotec version x16xe).

Secondly one of the cams broke which resulted in the cam belt snapping which in turn bent 6 of the valves, but these have been replaced. My mate said that changing the valves might not be good enough and sometimes engines need to have the head skimmed.

Can anyone please give me advice and any possible problems with the wiring?

Thanks


[Edited on 14-07-2004 by welshdude]
Siberia
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13th Jul 04 at 21:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
the 1.0 12V are a bit harder to do conversions with but thwey can be done.

on the other hand i'd be warey of that engine could be fooked
welshdude
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13th Jul 04 at 21:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Yeah I've heard that the 12valvers are somehow more diffucult to convert
J100RSA
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12v is a peice of piss to do
Greg_M
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the wiring loom is different, the loom is all over the place, not all together as wth sports ect
welshdude
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quote:
Originally posted by Greg12v
the wiring loom is different, the loom is all over the place, not all together as wth sports ect


I guess this would make it alot more difficult
Greg_M
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its difficunt yeah, but not impossible. plenty of people have done it.
Mark Petty
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Sorry to change the subject but how much do you reckon a garage will charge to do a conversion?
If I supply all the parts, just labour costs?

How long does it normally take?
Greg_M
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labour is usually £200-300. all in all about £700ish
Greasemonkey
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lee mitchell will supply an engine and fit it for ya for £700
Mark Petty
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quote:
Originally posted by Greasemonkey
lee mitchell will supply an engine and fit it for ya for £700


I thought he would charge about £1500? or is that for the 2litre?
lee mitchell
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thats for the 2 litre
Greg_M
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quote:
Originally posted by Greasemonkey
lee mitchell will supply an engine and fit it for ya for £700


he told me he cant get hold of very many 1.6 16v's so its better to supply your own. hows the gear box grease?
welshdude
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14th Jul 04 at 12:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
How does the wiring differ? Im trying to collect information so that I can pass it on a mechanic.

He says things can get tricky when your trying to convert an engine that was different to the standard one in the car
DODG-E
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14th Jul 04 at 12:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
mate ive just put a 1.4 16v in my 1.2 8v, and i had soo many more probs than i thought..


exhaust has to be re-joined
change fan belt (cos of p/s to non p/s)
new fuel pump, new fuel line connectors, new throttle cable, and im stuck with wiring in the immobiliser now!!
welshdude
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14th Jul 04 at 12:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
sounds complicated. My car also has power steering....
Greg_M
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quote:
Originally posted by DODG-E
mate ive just put a 1.4 16v in my 1.2 8v, and i had soo many more probs than i thought..


exhaust has to be re-joined
change fan belt (cos of p/s to non p/s)
new fuel pump, new fuel line connectors, new throttle cable, and im stuck with wiring in the immobiliser now!!


did you not expect these problems?
Greg_M
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quote:
Originally posted by welshdude
How does the wiring differ?


the loom is different, in the sportsect. the loom is all collected together, but with the 12v and also the sxi (and all 1.2 i think) the loom is dotted about everywhere. also with the 12v, the CAT is in a different place so you'll need the whole zorst system from the 1.6 too
welshdude
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quote:
Originally posted by Greg12v
quote:
Originally posted by welshdude
How does the wiring differ?


the loom is different, in the sportsect. the loom is all collected together, but with the 12v and also the sxi (and all 1.2 i think) the loom is dotted about everywhere. also with the 12v, the CAT is in a different place so you'll need the whole zorst system from the 1.6 too


The guy I'm buying the engine off has the full exhaust system. He also has things like the steering wheel and air bag which I'd stick on ebay to try and make some money back.
Greg_M
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i will warn you that the dash will have to come out.
Greasemonkey
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gearbox is gettin fixed tomoz, its up at the garage now, we had a quick look, might just be gear linkage knackered, im more bothered about the 4 new tyres i need!!!!, oh well someone make me happy and buy my car
welshdude
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quote:
Originally posted by Greg12v
i will warn you that the dash will have to come out.


Really, thats what the mechanic thought he might have to do. Sounds like one hell of a job
Greg_M
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14th Jul 04 at 14:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
worth it tho, just remember to let the people know that you sell it onto
DODG-E
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14th Jul 04 at 14:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
yeh im struggling with mine but its all just little bits that can be solved....

i just cant find the end where the throttle cable goes on the throttle body!!

ahhh
Greg_M
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its in the haynes

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