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Go3asy
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15th Apr 04 at 23:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

went to get my tracking done after lowering 40mm and putting on 17s, apparently its fine , then the guy started advising me about my car, got on from -40mm fk springs and gmax shocks, he said its way to stif, and coz u got low profile tyres has no give, i mean yeah its a choppy ride ect i dont care, but he said after 2 months or so the bodywork of the car will start to crack, and i shouldnt have used shocks aswell, i should have used std shocks and just lowering springs lol, but the back was fine he said, which is gmax springs and shocks, also the springs o nthe back have done a good bit of milage, well over 1000 i think so they are brokein, although the shocks aint , they are new, iaybe just coz the fornt springs are new and really stiff, i mean if u hit a bump the front end lifts up off the ground lol, but after driving around a bit today u can push down and bounce it on the wing slightly, eh said he couldnt, although i was doing it with my std wheels back on and soft big tyres, didnt even feel bumps with them things on, i drove around with my 117s and not spiggots for a while, un safe so had to stick others on, got some seriouse shuddering and lack of control with 17s, but 1 of the shops i phoned to see if they stocked MAS stuff said thats because theres no spiggots dont see why it would be like that, but the balancing of wheels and track (apparently) is fine... will be travelling to a performance garage next time... ,

even though i did today and he said the garage that fitted my shocks has done it wrong and thats why its stiff, he said they cant just stick them on they havent modded them, they havent chopped some rubbers, whats that all about??? but after he realised i had no spiggots on yet he wasnt botherd about that he was more concerned of the wheel fallng off

any help is appriciated!
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15th Apr 04 at 23:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

this man talks shit
Go3asy
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he had a car that was sitting -60 on 15s lol, hes working on cars all the time, ,worked in that garage for about 20yr lol, made me wonder
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until he said its a better idea to go for sprngs on std gas shocks coz its not as stiff...., gmax are probably 1 of the softwest anyway
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It would probably crack if the shocks were bolted on to body work. But they aren't, they are bolted to the turrets and various chassis parts

[Edited on 15-04-2004 by 1800ed]
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at most a strut brace would stop it from happening
Go3asy
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he said the inner wing will need welding after a while
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I doubt it, cos quite a few of the better spring kits have got, either TUV or E markings on them, menaing that they are pretty safe to use, anything that could cause damage like that would not be safe and not get those markings on them. You never know though...
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duno do gmax have that ?

he was trying to say there not for normal cars uprated shocks they are for racing track cars lol
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your cars -40, is it alot harder than b4 and more bouncy on bumps and u feel everything, plus the steering pulls when u hit bumps ect, its all normal
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ttt
PaulW
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I had mine down 60mm on 15's...

very hard ride, had suspension set to hardest setting mind! When it went for its MOT, only problem was the tracking was slightly out, but they did say the camber was a bit excessive but shouldn't be too much of a problem.

If he's saying about cutting down rubber mounts (i'd guess ARB mounting rubbers or bump-stops), then he's a fool. TBH with what I read up there, I wouldn't go back to the garage, I'd go elsewhere!
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so basically u buy the shocks and they just go on the same as your std shocks were, no modding needed to fit them ? like this guy says(prolly just wanting me to pay him cash)
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yup thats right!

all I did with my Spax coilovers was swapped them straight over, no other stuff needed doing!

Yup he is just after money! Defo go elsewhere!
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3 doors will crack tho at the b pillars, iwas just reminded by someone, but 5 doors have a diffrent structure in the middle and the fornt door is not as long so its a bit more secure
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Shocks that are normally absorbed by the suspension and tyres will need to be transferred somewhere - obviously through the car and yourself.
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quote:
Originally posted by Go3asy
3 doors will crack tho at the b pillars, iwas just reminded by someone, but 5 doors have a diffrent structure in the middle and the fornt door is not as long so its a bit more secure

3 Doors crack at the B pillars cos they rust there...
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quote:
Originally posted by 1800ed
quote:
Originally posted by Go3asy
3 doors will crack tho at the b pillars, iwas just reminded by someone, but 5 doors have a diffrent structure in the middle and the fornt door is not as long so its a bit more secure

3 Doors crack at the B pillars cos they rust there...


they only rust because they crack.

they also crack regardless of suspension set up.

 
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