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Pablo
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6th Apr 04 at 08:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I have 5channel Amp was running front pioneers, rear 6x9 and a kenwood sub...! Came with the car so wasn't gonna complain And headunit was a shitty std cd slot Pioneer

I upgraded front speakers to Audiobahn - (I'll post model here later) Very happy with these! Disconnected the 6x9 cos they were pants !

Im gettin a new sub and new amp - spoken to cheekycorsa and he has suggected a 4channel amp that can run the fronts and the other two bridge to run the sub Me no understand tho

Also lookin at new Alpine headunit poss MP3

Thoughts and suggestions


[Edited on 08-04-2004 by P4UL]
Nobber
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6th Apr 04 at 11:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If your buying an Alpine HU, why bother getting a 4 channel amp. Run the fronts from the HU, no doubt be 4x50w RMS and just buy a decent 2 channel or mono chanel amp for the sub.

If you decide to get some rear fill 2 way speakers run that from the HU too.

Just my 2p worth.
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6th Apr 04 at 12:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Im thinkin mayb I keep the amp I got and try new sub, see how that sounds, it aint that bad IMO now Ive set the amp up properly, never b comp worthy but Im not worried but want a nice sound
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4 channel 1000w max,with induction cooling fan.Variable 12db crossover ,18db bass boost,wired remote controll. 40oms 4 x 45w RMS (300m max)+ 1 x 160w RMS (320w max) Bridged 2 x 140w RMS (560w max) 2oms 4 x 60w RMS (480w max)+ 1 x 230w RMS (460w max)
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6th Apr 04 at 13:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Alpine hu's are NOT 4 x50 or 60 RMS LOL
There about 4 x 23 -27RMS.
The best thing u can do is get a good 2 channel amp for the comps and buy a monoblock amp to power the sub and sell your old amp.
Will be top!
Dom
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6th Apr 04 at 13:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Salon Racer
If your buying an Alpine HU, why bother getting a 4 channel amp. Run the fronts from the HU, no doubt be 4x50w RMS and just buy a decent 2 channel or mono chanel amp for the sub.

If you decide to get some rear fill 2 way speakers run that from the HU too.

Just my 2p worth.


YESH

like adi said, alpines or anything other HU dont push out what it says on the tin. Like my pionner states 4x55w, but like fook is that 55wRMS its about 25wRMS.
And yea, get a 2 channel for your comps and a monoblock for the sub. Or get a 4 channel for the comps and leaves a spare set if you want to put some comps/coxials in the back
Or if you strapped for cash, then you could bridge a 2 channel amp for the sub and when ya get enough cash, swap it for a monoblock
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6th Apr 04 at 14:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I dunno how bridging works
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by P4UL
I dunno how bridging works

lol boss

basically, bridging is when you link two or more channels to gether to acts as one MONO channels used for subs And this is simply done by taking the psitive (+) of one channel and negative (-) of another (in a group set) and them going to the sub There may also be a setting or something which you need to change, but thats about it
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6th Apr 04 at 14:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ah right ! My car dont sound too bad, but I get a bit of distortion from sub, if I replaced that 1st see what thats like, save money that way and go from there
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6th Apr 04 at 14:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by P4UL
4 channel 1000w max,with induction cooling fan.Variable 12db crossover ,18db bass boost,wired remote controll. 40oms 4 x 45w RMS (300m max)+ 1 x 160w RMS (320w max) Bridged 2 x 140w RMS (560w max) 2oms 4 x 60w RMS (480w max)+ 1 x 230w RMS (460w max)



What sub should I look at that can b powered by this here amp ! These details above ?!

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6th Apr 04 at 14:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

they do do what they say on the tin, but they quote MAX power of 4 x 50 W which is about 25-30 W RMS
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6th Apr 04 at 15:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Huh
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6th Apr 04 at 15:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

that amp isnt great tbh 160 x 1 rms is a tad poor for a sub.
limits you really to a jl 10 or 12w0.

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=1161&osCsid=ed8a1046993dea673361f709ff2a676d

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Thanks I dont want OTT just sound nice wen I play it, I dont play it "FULL" so im not bothered
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http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=134240

Would that do the jobby ??
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6th Apr 04 at 16:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

no it needs 300w rms your amp cant deliver it.
Get the jl u wont be disappointed
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I have a MB Quatz goin in the car, what shop recocomended, I shall get spec I have to buy from them as they giving me discount
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6th Apr 04 at 20:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

RWC304

12" Subwoofer, Enclosure Type, 4 Ohm, Frequency Response 18-300Hz, Free Sub Box

Power Handling 160-300 Watts

^^ (sorry mate I am hearing u wen u say JL sub)

What u think to this one ?!
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never seen or heard an MB Quartz sub so cant comment really m8, powerhandling seems ok, but u really would be better off with a decent mono amp.
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6th Apr 04 at 22:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

K mate thanks for help, mono block nxt month cant afford this month
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MB QUART RWC 304 12" Subwoofer-225 Watts RMS Power-300 Watts PEAK Power



Car SubWoofer (RWC 304)Features :

Size: 12" (300mm)

Cone Material: Polypropylene

Basket: Cast Alloy

Surround: Butyl Rubber

Voice Coil Former: Aluminum

Voice Coil Size: 3"

Cooling: Vented Pole

SPECIFICATIONS STANDARD METRIC

IMPEDANCE: 4W

POWER HANDLING (RMS): 225 watts

POWER HANDLING (Peak): 300 watts

FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 18-300 Hz

SENSITIVITY: 86 dB (1w/1m)

RECOMMENDED ENCLOSURE: 1.0 Feet3 (Sealed)
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6th Apr 04 at 22:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

from wat i have read about it it seems reasonable, just get a better amp as soon as u can!
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7th Apr 04 at 06:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yesh this is on my list mate, cheers
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7th Apr 04 at 12:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

no probs
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7th Apr 04 at 14:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by AdiSRI
no probs


Spoke to Snowy and he has sparked me a deal Shall b gettin new amp and 15" bad boy for my car, also use the 5channel as 4 channel and run my front components

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