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Author fao peeps who do 2.0 conversions concerning the exhaust
corsa120
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1st Apr 04 at 21:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

after the 2.0 is fitted can the exhaust you already have still be used
corsafreak
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1st Apr 04 at 21:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

mine is and runs fine on the original 1.4i exhaust (1.75" bore),however it's only a temporary measure for me.
i've been told 2.25-2.5 " system are best, biggest being noisier though .
J da Silva
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1st Apr 04 at 21:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

made my own exhaust, 3inch bore all the way down to the backbox, then goes to 4inch exit. need a big bore
corsafreak
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1st Apr 04 at 21:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

aye you have a turbo though mine would'nt have the ability to shoot squirrels out of a 3 incher unlike yours
littletriad
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1st Apr 04 at 23:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

use 2 or 2.25 but no more or u loose power
sfxer
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2nd Apr 04 at 10:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

2 will be fine, littletriad is right about losing power
stuyw
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2nd Apr 04 at 14:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ive got 2 1/4" on mine n is about right m8
Daimo B
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Straight thru 2" system into two 44mm pipes into two 6x4s
corsa120
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i think i should re-word the question what i mean is........

i currently have a jap powerflow system, but im swopping for a piper full stainless zorst, my question is when i have the 2.0 fitted do u need a new exhaust/cat to suit the manifold on the 2.0 engine or do you need a new custom system made up
Fad
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2nd Apr 04 at 18:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just mated up my magnex full systm and decat not sure what size bore but its hige thinking 2.5"

also sounds the nuts not raspy just real deep and throaty

stuyw
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u'll have to get a replacement as the front pipe of the astra bends the other way. If u wanna keep ur existing zorst, u will have to cut it, turn it round and weld it to the astra front pipe
Daimo B
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Well mine didn't need a cat so i had the flange cut off then the system mated onto that.
J da Silva
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2nd Apr 04 at 19:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by littletriad
use 2 or 2.25 but no more or u loose power


i dont have that problem
J da Silva
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3rd Apr 04 at 13:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by littletriad
use 2 or 2.25 but no more or u loose power


so if your bore is bigger than that, your engine performs worse?

that assclowns guide needs sending via mail to you i think
J da Silva
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3rd Apr 04 at 13:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by sfxer
2 will be fine, littletriad is right about losing power


no bigger bore exhaust get rid of exhaust gases, the smaller the bore, the more air creeps back up the manifold FACT!
TOMAS
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4th Apr 04 at 10:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

BACK PRESSURE - word.
Mattb
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4th Apr 04 at 10:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

^^^^ yep, perfect size for the Let is apparently 2.5 inches,
start getting bigger and you start loosing back pressure. i dont know how it works mind you, but if you exhaust has a hole in it you loose power, tis the same with a larger bore.

if you get me.....
J da Silva
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4th Apr 04 at 11:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by TOMAS
BACK PRESSURE - word.


air taking easier routes - another 4 words
TOMAS
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4th Apr 04 at 16:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeah well dont fit an exhaust, or manifold for that matter. That has to be the easiest route
Andy
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4th Apr 04 at 17:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Using a bore that is too big for engine power loses you low down and mid torque. It's complicated to explain, but it's to with the waveforms of the pulses of the gases leaving the engine. With the right bore size, you can create a negative pressure that helps sucks the exhaust gases away. Too wide a bore and you lose this effect. Too narrow and the resistance to air flow starts to become a problem. For 160bhp engine about 2 inch bore is ideal. 200bhp engine about 2.25 - 2.5 inch bore is ideal.

[Edited on 04-04-2004 by Andy]
WARPED
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4th Apr 04 at 18:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

/\ agreed - too big bore - loss of back pressure - loss of low/mid power /\
J da Silva
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4th Apr 04 at 18:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i think in a physics kinda why, i imagined air coming out the exhaust from and it made more sense for the air to go with flow rather than against flow if u get me
Dave
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4th Apr 04 at 19:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It's a fair complicated science, as Andy said there is loads more involved than just gasses escaping. It gets really complicated on 2strokes where they have specific expansion chambers to engineer in a certain amount of back pressure because of the way they expell exhaust gas. I can't see it being a massive deal in a road car though.

I've noticed on mine since the 2litre went its almost as though gas is struggling to get out at idle, I'm considering losing the twin exit and going for something more simple, it was only really for looks anyway.
J da Silva
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4th Apr 04 at 19:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well i took the old 2inch bore of coz it was spluttering and struggling, made my own 3inch and now its all cured and increased 3bhp , not much but its not a loss
Dave
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4th Apr 04 at 19:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Mine splutters about at idle, think it'smore to do with gas coming back out of a box it only just went into, then having to mess about going round wheel well and out of another pipe.

Also sounds awful, raspy at low revs and spits black water out of the second pipe.

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