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blackula
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16th Mar 04 at 13:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ok I spose we all read the post Bubblevauxmade about his Diesel Corsa C.

I just been this morning and checked out the 1.3 cdti sxi and the 1.7 CDti SRi corsas.

Here's what I reckon...............

the 1.3 feels like a meaty old skool 1.4 hatch, but its quicker than it feels, but check it out , I'm a petrol head and I was surprised....

the 1.7 cdti is a fucking beast, its a diesel, it moves, I'd not be shocked if it was much slower then something like the 2.5 tdi Audi whichI drove.

Still I'd never buy either, but that 1.7 cdti Sri, that is Not SLOW.
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16th Mar 04 at 13:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

100bhp is not FAST
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16th Mar 04 at 13:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

no no no no gambit - try driving mine sxi for a while - 100bhp will seem like neck breaking speeds to you then!!!
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yeah but he's comparing it to a 2.5 Audi which is 163bhp & a shed load more torque, maybe u just getting the impression your going faster due to all the torque coming in at low rpm's whereas a petrol is more progressive thru the rev range
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16th Mar 04 at 13:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

dads got an a4 2.5 v6 tdi, it made 211.3 bhp last time it went on the rollers
s reg, so was 150 bhp to start with
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Personally Im not a fast driver, I had a real bad scary accident a couple of days before my 20th birthday and thats slowed me down lots. (not my fault, brake disks cracked at rear, making me lose all my faith in car safety)

Therefore I dont need a fast car, but sometimes it would be nice to be able to pull away from an uphill junction
Adam-CorsaC18s
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without having to rag the balls off my car!!!!
SetH
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quote:
Originally posted by Gambit
yeah but he's comparing it to a 2.5 Audi which is 163bhp & a shed load more torque, maybe u just getting the impression your going faster due to all the torque coming in at low rpm's whereas a petrol is more progressive thru the rev range


I feel this man is correct.
Nick-S
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16th Mar 04 at 15:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the 1.7 cdti mite only have 100bhp but it has shit loads more torque than a 1.8 125bhp

that means it would propbly beat it off the line but get left behind as speed increaes

and best of all bet u get sum like 60mpg

i wud av 1
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aye for about the 1st 15yds
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16th Mar 04 at 16:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

1.7dt is 10.5 to 60
1.8 is 8.2 to 60

and that rocket ship that bubblevaux drives does it in 13.5 and a plume of black smoke

[Edited on 16-03-2004 by Gambit]
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16th Mar 04 at 17:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the way he was talkin bout it sounded like it beats skylines


[Edited on 16-03-2004 by GSi_16v]
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16th Mar 04 at 17:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

again m8 GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT!!!! WERE TALKIN BOUT THE 1.7CDTI NOT THE DT!!!!
blackula
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I meant, the CDTI 1.7 felt every bit as quick as the Audi 2.5tdi I drive.

Furthermore you bunch of cheeky bastards, I never said a 100 bhp car was fast, and I wouldn't call a fookin Golf 16v fast either.

Corsa SXI albeit tweaked is my second car, I lease a Civic, the quick one........even that I don't class as fast

FAST is under 6 secs to 60 or 14 sec quarter and under anything above that can be catagorised as

So you can all GTF

bubble
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quote:
Originally posted by blackula


I meant, the CDTI 1.7 felt every bit as quick as the Audi 2.5tdi I drive.

Furthermore you bunch of cheeky bastards, I never said a 100 bhp car was fast, and I wouldn't call a fookin Golf 16v fast either.

Corsa SXI albeit tweaked is my second car, I lease a Civic, the quick one........even that I don't class as fast

FAST is under 6 secs to 60 or 14 sec quarter and under anything above that can be catagorised as

So you can all GTF




yeah any when they say 70bhp is slow, i get that at 3300rpm, unlike petrols where has be near 5500rpm to hit top bhp
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what people fail to realise is the amount of torque u get from a diesel !! I may be wrong, but this contributes a lot to the performance of the diesel and makes them perform better than the equivilent petrol. It's not all about HP.


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quote:
Originally posted by mase5
what people fail to realise is the amount of torque u get from a diesel !! I may be wrong, but this contributes a lot to the performance of the diesel and makes them perform better than the equivilent petrol. It's not all about HP.


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16th Mar 04 at 18:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Look I dont give a f.cuk.

All I did was take my ever lovin ass down to the Vauxhall dealer whilst you lot were at work and checked out the Diesel Corsas. IT WAS A LAUGH.

Then I went home and watched TV.
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wow wow wow calm down i drive a 1.7 dti not cdti 75 bhp i think its nippy not rapid i can beat my mate in a 1.2 16v sxi but not much else

Not gettin at any 1 dont get me wrong i am a big fan of diesels but i wud still rather av a petrol coz they sound nice


[Edited on 16-03-2004 by GSi_16v]
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16th Mar 04 at 18:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

this was the new

cdti

crossdressing turbo intercooler

100 bhp, NOT MUCH YEAH I FUCKIN KNOW BUT IS NIPPY FOR GOIN DOWN THE SHOPS
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16th Mar 04 at 18:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i sed am not getin at any 1 i like um but wud still rather av petrol purly for the noise

[Edited on 16-03-2004 by GSi_16v]
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quote:
Originally posted by GSi_16v
i sed am not getin at any 1 i like um but wud still rather av petrol purly for the noise

[Edited on 16-03-2004 by GSi_16v]


fairs fair. id rather av a diesel now cuz theyre ace!!
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i'd sooner have a golf PD rather than the 1.8 turbo. Can get stupid power increases with them. I've heard its all about fuel pressure i think rather than boost on them PD engines.


Mase
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It all comes down to what u want from a car.....

If u want a sports car, u buy a petrol.

If u want a car that gives good economy, strong motorway pulling, low insurance, then u buy a diesel.

It doesnt really work vica versa, but yes the new generation derv motors are superb, and highly tuneable

Matt
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quote:
Originally posted by MattyB
It all comes down to what u want from a car.....

If u want a sports car, u buy a petrol.

If u want a car that gives good economy, strong motorway pulling, low insurance, then u buy a diesel.

It doesnt really work vica versa, but yes the new generation derv motors are superb, and highly tuneable

Matt


I agree if u wana go realy realy fast go petrol but if not i wud go diesel cheapper in the long run

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