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Meat-Pie-SRI
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12th Mar 04 at 14:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What are they, roughly.............

0-60mph

1/4 mile

Top end

Cheers
BeArDy
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0-60mph - 6.5 - 7

1/4 mile - high 14 low 15's

Top end - depends on gearbox 130-140

Robertio_uk
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im not veen gonna ask wot ur 0-60sec is and ur top speed in ur corsa beardy lol
Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Robertio_uk
im not veen gonna ask wot ur 0-60sec is and ur top speed in ur corsa beardy lol


Not much better than an XE. 0-60 wont be as good as a redtop.
LukeGSi
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quote:
Originally posted by Daimo B
Not much better than an XE. 0-60 wont be as good as a redtop.


whatever
Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by born_upsideout
quote:
Originally posted by Daimo B
Not much better than an XE. 0-60 wont be as good as a redtop.


whatever


Errr come on then sherlock, tell me how then?

0-60 will be slower, V6 engines are not meant for bottom end, then are a cc engine based for motorway miles. Once they get up to speed it'll pass a redtop, but a redtop corsa will do 135-140, a V6 will hardly do much more than that.

Beside, Beardy assumes a V6 is a redtop

Take your boyracer comments and go back to the carpark fool.
miles
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12th Mar 04 at 19:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

lmao

I aint too sure what the difference in performance would be, but for the small amount of extra power you add a fair bit of weight.....

C16XE all the way baby
Daimo B
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A LOT of weight really. 2.5 V6 is what, 170bhp? 20bhp and about 20kg+?

From 50-100 a V6 would rape a redtop.
From 0-60 a retop would rape a V6.

So dont roll your eyes at me young man. Go back to cheating gas
miles
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Easily 20kgs I would have thought.

I dont think the V6 would rape the XE from 50-100, maybe in gear, but not flat out. Im only guessing though really.

Aren't V6 Cav/callys slower than the XE ones?
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standard then daimo wot u are sayin in my opinion and in theory is totally correct

but in reality each setup is different and on this occasion i think the fact beardy is also fittin as u say "cheating gas" then traction permitting the v6 may just get the upper hand
blackula
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Miles, a Cavalier V6 manual, 'rapes' a Cavalier GSi 2000.

The original test for the v6 cav Cesario with manual box, 0-60 6.9 secs Autocar, 0-100 in 18.9 secs.

Compare that to a Gsi 2000, not nearly as fast.

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From TV (I know they aint 100%)

Cav Mk3, 2.5 V6 - 167bhp - 145mph

Vectra hits 60 in 8 seconds (Again 2.5 v6)
Even teh new 3.2 V6 only hits it in 7.4.
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quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
standard then daimo wot u are sayin in my opinion and in theory is totally correct

but in reality each setup is different and on this occasion i think the fact beardy is also fittin as u say "cheating gas" then traction permitting the v6 may just get the upper hand


Wasn't referring to beardy on laughing gas.
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I just slip on my Anorak,

Cav V6 Cesario in Autocar, I got it in front of me here...

149mph

Cav's were not as heavy as the Vectra of course.
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If he has the gas on and can get traction it will beat a redtop to 60, the little bit of weight hardly matters when you are running double the power.

It's all dependant on getting grip though, he could end up sat there still spinning wheels when the 2ltr is at 60
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quote:
Originally posted by blackula
Miles, a Cavalier V6 manual, 'rapes' a Cavalier GSi 2000.

The original test for the v6 cav Cesario with manual box, 0-60 6.9 secs Autocar, 0-100 in 18.9 secs.

Compare that to a Gsi 2000, not nearly as fast.




Seen a standard XE Corsa do a 6.4 0-60. Running on 15"s.

Hence why the Guru (or his brother) is hitting the same 1/4 mile times as most Redtop corsas running 15"s. Redtop will get off the line better, but V6 will gain when the speeds raise.
miles
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Just looked

Cally 16v - 8.2
V6 - 7.3.

I didn't think the V6 was that quick tbh.
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Ok then if traction was not a factor for whatever reason...wouldn't a 2.5 V6 std in a Corsa beat a red top std in a Corsa. If its quicker in a Cavalier and Calibra why would it be different. Or am I DUMB ?
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quote:
Originally posted by blackula
I just slip on my Anorak,

Cav V6 Cesario in Autocar, I got it in front of me here...

149mph

Cav's were not as heavy as the Vectra of course.


Autocar always seems to have these amazingly fast times over standard. Would always take with a pinch of salt.

Remember, Official times are done over a large amount of runs then the average is given. Doing a couple of goes and putting the best run isn't always what the engine can do
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if a 2.5 in a vectra can piss over a 2.0 then why cant a 2.5 in a corsa piss over a 2.0

not being pedantic just a general question?

p.s i raced beardy when he had the 2.0 and to be honest there wasnt anything in it
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I got 6.9 for the V6 man and 8.2 for the GSI 2000

0-100 in 18.9 and 23.3
miles
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Getting off the line is down to the driver. It seems to me that if the Cav/Cally 16v-V6's are apart, the same will apply when the same engines are in corsa's. Hence the V6 being quicker.
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quote:
Originally posted by miles
Just looked

Cally 16v - 8.2
V6 - 7.3.

I didn't think the V6 was that quick tbh.


I can honestly say i've never seen a V6 beat a redtop up the strip. Thats watching both Cavs and Calibras going up the strip.

In fact, i've got a V6 calibra Vs a redtop on an old video i done. Redtop won.

But, for official results, we can wait for beardy to get his done.
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quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
if a 2.5 in a vectra can piss over a 2.0 then why cant a 2.5 in a corsa piss over a 2.0

not being pedantic just a general question?

p.s i raced beardy when he had the 2.0 and to be honest there wasnt anything in it


I've had a crack at a Vectra V6. From 40-70 i was comfortably ahead. After this the V6 started gaining.
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Here's one.

Fuck Autocar then.

I hired a Cavalier V6 years ago to go to Leicester. My mate followed me in his Astra GTE 16v (G reg with a k&n and janspeed) to pick me up when I took it back. He said he couldn't keep up with me.


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