Ditch
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Looking at buying a new car, although im not in any rush so could wait if I knew something would fall into my price range within the next year.
So..... what car would you buy for under 5k? no higher insurance than grp14
Dont really fancy going down the 106GTi / VTS route although they do handle well and are quick/ish.... someone convince me 
So what other fairly quick, fairly low maintenance cars are there for this sort of money.....
Was thinking along the lines of the Punto GT, Ibiza Cupra (too much ££  ), Mint Clio 16v or might just attempt the valver corsa i always wanted (insurance might be tricky).....
what would you do?
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Pickup
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Punto Gt's are nice imo, and group 14 insurance.
Maintainance wise, im not sure, never had one 
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Pablo
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Williams Clio  Dunno insurance grp
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Ditch
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anyone know if the handling can be sorted out on the GT?
wouldnt wana change the wheels really, just get it to stick to the floor a little better than they do 
come on lads, what other cars would you suggest.......
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Pablo
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306 GTi 6/Rallye ??
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Ditch
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Clio Williams isnt amazingly faster than the 16v and to find one that hasnt been thrashed is difficult now.
Insurance
Good suggestion tho, keep em comin
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Ditch
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quote:
Originally posted by P4UL
306 GTi 6/Rallye ??
Looked at the 306 Rallye and apparently the gearbox's are just as poor as the GTi, and I want a car thats gonna take a bit of abuse 
again, insurance would av me
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Pablo
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quote:
Originally posted by P4UL
306 GTi 6/Rallye ??
I like these cars they are pretty quick
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Colin
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Civic VTi
Golf GTi???
Dunno about insurance tho
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MatthewR
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U'd probably get a decent Festa Rs for that money but comes with baggage.
Get a Gt and put up with the handling!
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Ditch
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now the Mk2 16v GTi is an option, solid cars too, just arent exactly head turners....... Hmmm
Punto GT is still seeming the best buy for me unless i can find a 20VT Ibiza for less than 5k.... which aint gona happen for a year or two yet
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MatthewR
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Vts, engine mods 
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Fad
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what have you got now? how old are you cos vavler insurance aint that bad.
i think u should persoanlly drive each one of these and make your own mind up...
cos everyone on here is verty opinionated...like myself who cant stand puntos's they are cheap fragile and can be high maintainence...
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Ditch
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Will be 19 in april and i drive a ford fezzer heap o crap!
valver is out of my league i think.
GTs can be picked up for between 2-3k for a good un, and can save the rest for mods.....
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Gambit
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for 5k you can get a lot
punto GT's are hardly head turners themselves
whereas a mk2 16v simply needs lowered and then it looks mint, and goes like stink also - and you'll have tonnes of change out of the 5k to insure it
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[Edited on 24-02-2004 by Gambit]
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Noonster
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Corsa?? 
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Keithie
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quote:
Originally posted by Noonster19
Corsa??
agreed, gsi 'n all
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Ditch
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quote:
Originally posted by fadscorsa
i think u should persoanlly drive each one of these and make your own mind up...
agreed, and seeing as im in no rush to buy anything just yet im gonna spend alot more time just browsing what i can get me thinks....
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Ditch
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quote:
Originally posted by Gambit
for 5k you can get a lot
punto GT's are hardly head turners themselves
whereas a mk2 16v simply needs lowered and then it looks mint, and goes like stink also - and you'll have tonnes of change out of the 5k to insure it
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[Edited on 24-02-2004 by Gambit]
No a punto aint a head turner, but would definitely put a on my face when under boost.
I take back my comment about Mk2 golfs, that ones sweeeeet, i dont know what im chatting about 
Got any stats for a standard one Gambit?....1/4 mile etc.
Things to look out for on them?
What would you say is high mileage?
[Edited on 24-02-2004 by Ditch]
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Pablo
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MR2?
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Gambit
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factory 16v figures are 139bhp (124lb/f)
though late big bumper models seem to have a little bit more power as there was slight changes to the airbox setup.
0-60 is 7.9, though again this is said to be one up with 1/2 tank of fuel. some say 7.5 suppose its down to the driver
1/4 not sure, id say around mid 15's
easily modded to up the bhp, the 16v runs lean at high rpm's so adjusting the warm up regulator can see gains of upto 15bhp
you want a late 91/92 16v
they are a hoot to drive and cheap as chips to maintain
[Edited on 24-02-2004 by Gambit]
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Ditch
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 for a 1.8 16v!
[Edited on 24-02-2004 by Ditch]
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Gambit
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aye, and you can swap the 1.8 block for the 2.0 block from passats/corrado's or toledo's, and use the original 1.8 head & cams
straight swap just drop it in, again can push it up to around 170bhp if setup properly on a rolling road
u can pick up 2.0 blocks for £300
and the car only weighs in at 950kg
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Ditch
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I want this
Helios Blue, e/w, rcl, MOT/TAX, p s/history, stereo, TSW air filter, s/s exhaust, lowered/uprated suspension, uprated brakes, x6 15" alloys, sports steering wheel. Immaculate. £2250 ono. 63000 miles. £2250
got a quote of £1900 TPFT tho
bit of a joke really for a 10year old car....
[Edited on 24-02-2004 by Ditch]
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Gambit
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the 16v's are group 15, u can get classic insurance for them though
also try HIC, they will not be beaten for price on golf insurance
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