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SetH

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14th Jan 04 at 14:18

Right rallye has been sold so looking for new car this weekend, Narrowed it down to Clio 172, Ibiza 1.8T 20V cupra, Pug 206 Gti.

Seen 172`s on W plate for £8k with 30-50k on, similar with the ibiza, Astra 2.2 SRi for 7-8k as well, The 206 seems to be a little cheaper on same year/miles.

Anyone got any proper performance stats on these, not the bull sh1t parkers ones ive just been looking at

Strengths and weaknesses of each car?

Will be probably be keeping it standard.

Thanks.

Nobber

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14th Jan 04 at 14:26

Ibiza without a doubt. It's what I drive, all beit the R version.

Keep £500 spare and get it down to a revo dealer. 10 mins with a laptop on it and walk away with it around the 220bhp and 210lb/ft mark.

Not bad from a book std of 156bhp.

Nobber

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14th Jan 04 at 14:26

Also check out www.seatcupra.net for loads info and help on the ibiza.

Ditch

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14th Jan 04 at 14:28

clio 182 if i had the money but otherwise the 172

(second choice would be the Ibiza but personally would get a Leon Cupra R)

SetH

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14th Jan 04 at 14:48

salon racer I take it thats just remapping and increasing the boost?

whitter45

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14th Jan 04 at 15:13

206 build quality is to be questioned. also the normal GTI is 137bhp, so it is not that quick.
Don't like the interior on the clio's so it would be the Cupra IMO

Screaming Vtec

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14th Jan 04 at 15:18

Either the Clio or the Ibiza..

As the renault is built like a biscuit tin, then go for the seat..

J4MIE P

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14th Jan 04 at 15:19

quote:
Originally posted by SetH
Right rallye has been sold so looking for new car this weekend, Narrowed it down to Clio 172, Ibiza 1.8T 20V cupra, Pug 206 Gti.

Seen 172`s on W plate for £8k with 30-50k on, similar with the ibiza, Astra 2.2 SRi for 7-8k as well, The 206 seems to be a little cheaper on same year/miles.

Anyone got any proper performance stats on these, not the bull sh1t parkers ones ive just been looking at

Strengths and weaknesses of each car?

Will be probably be keeping it standard.

Thanks.

fasthatchbacks

sxi boy

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14th Jan 04 at 15:42

ibiza and a jabbasport chip which will take you to 212bhp

lovely cars, my m8s got one and the power deilvery is immense

Tom

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14th Jan 04 at 16:08

100% the ibiza

Nobber

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14th Jan 04 at 16:10

Yes mate, just remaps the ecu and tweaks the boost like you say.

It's also totally undetectable to the diag computers etc, but can also be reverted back to stock and back again using a little black box they give you. Handy when you take it to the dealers!

Nobber

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14th Jan 04 at 16:13

Also look great in black with a nice set of rims!

If I was getting a cupra though, I would probably go for the blue, but they didn't make an R in blue.

Paul83b

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14th Jan 04 at 16:23

personally id save and go astra gsi. when the mk5 astra comes out the prices will drop loads so wait a bit. then buy one

sxi boy

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14th Jan 04 at 16:25

quote:
Originally posted by Paul83b
personally id save and go astra gsi. when the mk5 astra comes out the prices will drop loads so wait a bit. then buy one

ibiza cupra is a much nicer car IMO and can be made silly fast with relatively little effort

plus there are the advantages of VAG build quality

Tom

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14th Jan 04 at 16:29

I'd prefer a leon cupra tho

sxi boy

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14th Jan 04 at 16:30

leon cupra R

vibrio

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14th Jan 04 at 16:33

quote:
Originally posted by Salon Racer
Ibiza without a doubt. It's what I drive, all beit the R version.

Keep £500 spare and get it down to a revo dealer. 10 mins with a laptop on it and walk away with it around the 220bhp and 210lb/ft mark.

Not bad from a book std of 156bhp.

220 a bit high. your looking around 200-205hp with revo

vibrio

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14th Jan 04 at 16:34

quote:
Originally posted by Salon Racer
Yes mate, just remaps the ecu and tweaks the boost like you say.

It's also totally undetectable to the diag computers etc, but can also be reverted back to stock and back again using a little black box they give you. Handy when you take it to the dealers!

it can be detected though. it just thats it's not soldiered in

Tom

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14th Jan 04 at 16:35

Yeah new leon r

vibrio

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14th Jan 04 at 16:36

go for test drives Set

Kris TD

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14th Jan 04 at 16:37

ibiza, its also the only one that may actually be worth something when you come to sell again.

Tom

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14th Jan 04 at 16:39

Nah couple year old leon (with the multi spokes) shouldn't loose too much too fast

sxi boy

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14th Jan 04 at 16:40

quote:
Originally posted by vibrio

quote:
Originally posted by Salon Racer
Ibiza without a doubt. It's what I drive, all beit the R version.

Keep £500 spare and get it down to a revo dealer. 10 mins with a laptop on it and walk away with it around the 220bhp and 210lb/ft mark.

Not bad from a book std of 156bhp.

220 a bit high. your looking around 200-205hp with revo

my mate got his revo'd and they claimed it now gives him 220bhp, the fact that he doesnt really get far away from my clio would suggest otherwise

[Edited on 14-01-2004 by sxi boy]

Juni0r

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14th Jan 04 at 16:44

Bro picks up his cupra on sat *crosses fingers!!*

Already ordered the dump valve, induction kit and exhaust!!

just decidin on rims!!!

Sooty

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14th Jan 04 at 16:45

2.2 SRi is crap.. personally id go for the 172 or Seat

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