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Kris TD
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right im looking at cars now, i have 6k too spend.

choices are:

audi a3 1.8t or 1.9 tdi 110

golf gti 1.8t or 1.9 tdi 110 or 115

seat leon tdi (cant get insurance on the 1.8t as its the high powered version)

anyone got any suggestions or recommendations from driving any of these cars?
mestonian
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leon or A3, Id probably opt for the leon, look gorge and go like shit!
Marc
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ive driven golf, nasty turbo lag then it kicks in and takes by surprise!
Kris TD
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yeah i heard on the pre 2000 1.8t they are hesitant from cold but once they warm up they are loads better.
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Leon 110 Tdi.
Kris TD
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
Leon 110 Tdi.


and chip to 150

can get a pretty new leon for that money too like a 2000 x reg or somethign like that
Tom
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A3 1.8t imo
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golf 1.8t - chip to 180, or even 225 dependin on the block & whether its fly by wire
Kris TD
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abt do a 235 bhp chip for the audi a3 1.8t
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quote:
Originally posted by Kris TD
abt do a 235 bhp chip for the audi a3 1.8t


Erm, yeah, okay........

SOrry, but that is way wrong. Chipping an A3 1.8 turbo will not boost it to 235 bhp. A3 1.8 t sport is 150 bhp as standard, A3 1.8 t quattro is 180 bhp, no way just a chip will make 235 bhp. My mate has an AmD chip and is only running 200 bhp, otteninger (sp) 205 bhp, Superchip, 200bhp none get anywhere near. Anyway, get an A3, nice refined car and with good mods, nice and quick
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VVT will give around 212hp
Kris TD
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Kris TD
abt do a 235 bhp chip for the audi a3 1.8t


Erm, yeah, okay........

SOrry, but that is way wrong. Chipping an A3 1.8 turbo will not boost it to 235 bhp. A3 1.8 t sport is 150 bhp as standard, A3 1.8 t quattro is 180 bhp, no way just a chip will make 235 bhp. My mate has an AmD chip and is only running 200 bhp, otteninger (sp) 205 bhp, Superchip, 200bhp none get anywhere near. Anyway, get an A3, nice refined car and with good mods, nice and quick


ok, so you go to http://www.abt-sportsline.de then go to the audi a3 engine tuning section and look, they do you engine management systems, one boosts too 193 bhp the other boosts too 235 bhp, it obviously cranks the boost up a fair notch. i bet there is hardly any difference between the 150 and 180 turbo other than management anyway.

vibrio, found a 160 bhp chip for the 110 bhp tdi seems like a better option to me.
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some chips can give off too much smoke.
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especially if you dont clean the chip pan out regulary
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its the AUM engine codes that have the VVT
Kris TD
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quote:
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some chips can give off too much smoke.


yeah i know what u meen, my dads got a 6 stage chip on his a4 2.5tdi, on the highest setting its bloody quick but it smokes, so he leaves it on about the 4th setting normally.
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by vvt i assume u meen variable vein turbo???
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ive got a audi on my drive

so id go for leon for a change
Kris TD
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ive sacked of the 1.8t now as i have found many products and ways to release silly power and torque out of the 1.9 tdi lumps
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diesel
Kris TD
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true, i do like the 1.8t but as the tdi does 56 mpg and the petrol 32 and u can get similar performance from the 2 then its not really a contest. well apart from the fact the 1.8t has a better interior, and exterior, doh. easyily solved.
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the tdi 150 actually puts out close to 170bhp standard.
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useless fact there!!!
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me parent got the tdi 130

tis lovely,got the 6 speed box as standard, cruises at 46mpg as has got loads of torque
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funny u should say that marc, ive been looking on some sites and they recon that the 130 actually puts out more near 140 standard.

think ive found another choice, which i cant see can be beaten.

vw bora 1.9 tdi pd 115 sport
6 speed, can be chipped too 161 bhp 388nm torque
can get 2000 x regs ones for 6k, and there are loads of em for that price ):

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