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RCS
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22nd Jun 09 at 23:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It's easier to be behind than be in front though.
DAZ1985
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by Mike B
Make your car faster so they can't get in your slipstream in the first place


exactly what i was about to type


Just waiting for management for the new engine then thats sorted
Kano
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I read the thread title and it reminded me of the top gun scene with the jet wash... lol.
Paul_J
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I don't really get this?

are you asking how to get past someone on a track or what?

If sopmeone is sitting on your bumper on track, it's generally a big clue that they are quicker than you. Indicate, pull over and SLOW DOWN and let them pass.

Too many people pull over and keep flat out - hence making it hard / risky to get past.

Much better to just let them past, then tuck in behind them and continue. Otherwise they'll get frustrated and try something stupid.
DAZ1985
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Not to get past them no the cars are fairly even through the corners and on the straights other than the driver, tires and brakes the cars are almost the same

I was only asking through curiousity

I see your point though
Daimo B
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24th Jun 09 at 13:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Well if your on track, and your just "pulling over" to let them passed, then i'd say, learn how to track day drive.......


You pull over and come OFF the throttle, and re-apply when they go past, not oull over, stay on most throttle so they can't get passed....

If they are sitting in your slipstream, their car is not really slower than yours anyway, as it doesn't really start to come into play till after 100mph.
Edd
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24th Jun 09 at 13:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by RCS
It's easier to be behind than be in front though.



i disagree


behind you are always worried about them braking and such

in front you can just go hell for leather
Daimo B
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On the road, yeah..

On track, in similar cars the braking points will be very similar.

I get frustrated behined on track, becuase your not allowed to overtake where the skill counts, under braking..

When im in front, your constently looking who's behined you, if/where they will overtake hence taking the attention off your line and what your doing.


The BEST thing to do if its happening, is to do a drive through, go through the pits, come out again and carry on.

I don't get why in bikes they offer, novice, inter, advanced etc track sessions, but with cars its a "free for all"...

But then they impost rules like "no overtaking", so you get caught behined areally quick car on the straights who leaves you, only to have to tap the brakes mid corner becuase your carrying so much more speed, if you don't u'll ram them mid corner.. Till the next straight when off they go again....

They should seperate cars track sessions too imo.
alan-g-w
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24th Jun 09 at 14:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'd imagine the reason is that there are far more people wanting to do a track day with a car than a motorbike, so splitting everyone up might be a pain in the arse. But I can see you point.

Surely if someone's on your bumper, you pull over to let them past but they can't it's their problem for not having a fast enough car? The problem is only going to be reversed if, like you say, the cars are equally matched.
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There are sessioned trackdays available. But open pit is much much better on the whole. They session bike trackdays because all bikers are nutters out to kill themselves.

[Edited on 24-06-2009 by Adam_B]
Daimo B
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Yes all bikers go out to kill themselves....

Difference being, the bikers can usually ride better than track car drivers can drive.... hence WHY they seperate the classes.

Difference between a novice and advance can be 10+ seconds per lap on the same machines.
Adam_B
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Daimo mate you shouldnt bite so easily! Saying the best person on a bike will be better than the best person in a car is kind of dumb, id say the biker needs more bravery/stupidity. There is a point where talent tops out.

Like i said, open pit in a car is better on the whole, its just done to sell more places, you can do sessioned trackdays but i wouldnt bother with them anymore. I have no experience of bike trackdays but from sharing a certain fairly well known track in germany with many motorbikes i understand what your sayin about the difference in ability so it makes sense to session it, i dont think the gap is so big in a car, plus if something does happen your less likely to die.

[Edited on 24-06-2009 by Adam_B]
Daimo B
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Im tired, im quick to fire today.

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