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dannymccann
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24th Jan 09 at 13:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ive been reading round and apparently for the smoke test the engine is revved from idle to redline a maximum of 6 times

It says this test 'should not do any damage to a well maintained engine'.

Now as far as I know its been maintained as it should be, I dont much like the prospect of some numpty in a garage ragging the shit out of my motor, considering I never go above 3.5/4k...... I assume if you refuse to allow this to happen your car cannot pass the MOT?

What happens when you allow them to have fun with your loud pedal, that the engine DOES break? What sort of comeback do you have???

edit - http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/repository/Diesel%20Smoke%20Test%20-%20Info%20Card.pdf

[Edited on 24-01-2009 by dannymccann]
Mertin
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24th Jan 09 at 13:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I did my work experience at a garage a few years ago and never saw this happen? Unless its changed

Emissions etc are usually done at a set rpm
XE luke
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24th Jan 09 at 13:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

id ask to do that bit yourself

i mot'd my car yesterday and the tester was great
i sat in the car and revved it as he asked while he did emissions test

XE luke
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24th Jan 09 at 13:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i only had to rev to 2krpm for around 30 secs that was on a 1.6 petrol
mattk
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24th Jan 09 at 13:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

im concerned too, only ever took mine to 4k dont want some monkey taking it the limiter, especially from cold
Joe
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24th Jan 09 at 13:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Some people worry far too much.
dannymccann
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24th Jan 09 at 13:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It wont be taken there from cold, ive updated the original post with VOSA link ^^

Joe, id still rather the engine not be ragged to an inch of its life, just for the stupid MOT test
Joe
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24th Jan 09 at 13:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Its not within an inch of its life though. It says a maximum of 6 times, so they might only do it a couple of times. Why is your engine suddenly going to break when it gets revved a couple of times?

Looks like you'll just have to make do without an MOT then.
dannymccann
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24th Jan 09 at 13:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I just dont see why it need to be revved right up to the line, they dont do that on petrol cars?
Joe
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24th Jan 09 at 13:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Because its a smoke test, an engine doesn't really smoke on idle? and generally petrol engines don't smoke that much?

Make sure they don't check your lights too, just incase a bulb blows.
dannymccann
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Bonney
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24th Jan 09 at 13:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If your worried about your car going to the redline once, I would seriously think of getting rid of it and getting a new one. The rev limiter on the car is set so it will not do any damage to the car, nothing at all to worry about.
John
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24th Jan 09 at 13:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It won't do any damage to the engine even from cold, the engines are designed to be driven like that by people who don't have a clue anyway.
bubble
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24th Jan 09 at 13:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Joe
Because its a smoke test, an engine doesn't really smoke on idle? and generally petrol engines don't smoke that much?

Make sure they don't check your lights too, just incase a bulb blows.


i actually laughed, out, loud at that!
Tommy L
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24th Jan 09 at 13:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Engine is going to break if revved 6 times to an inch of its life

[Edited on 24-01-2009 by corsa_tomtom]
Eck
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24th Jan 09 at 13:48   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It's called a limiter for a reason. It'll be reet.
John
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24th Jan 09 at 13:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Also, unless it's the first mot it'll have had it done and survived already.
Marshall
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24th Jan 09 at 13:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the test for petrol engine mesures the emissions at idle and about 3000rpm

the diesel test just involevs measuring the smoke opacity from idle to limiter.
Also diesel dont bounce off the limiter like a petrol. I controlled by a governor in the high pressure pump. so, if anything it should be safer for a diesel to be at the limiter.

theres also a fast pass route, so if first rev is very good, then they only do it the once.
Rob_Lee
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Registered: 9th Dec 05
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24th Jan 09 at 14:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

This is only on diesels so stop worrying!

Its revved to the limiter for smoke test and emmisions
pow
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24th Jan 09 at 14:43   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Jesus some people worry too much!

I give mine some lmiited death every now and again (sometimes on purpose, sometimes not!)

Theyre gunna do it, if the car is well looked after it'll be fine.

5k is the limiter to stop breaking, not the breaking point

 
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