BluKoo
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Porsche own the mojority of VW.
VW own Audi, Skoda, Lamborghini, Seat, Bentley, Bugatti and even Scania if i remember correctly, so in reality, Porsche own all of the aforementioned brands.
Will Porsche take over the world one day?
[Edited on 07-01-2009 by BluKoo]
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Kevxx
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scary!
Ain't Fiat another company who own ALOT!
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Tom
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quote:
Originally posted by Kevxx
scary!
Ain't Fiat another company who own ALOT!
Fiat basically own half of italy iirc.
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BluKoo
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Fiat own Ferrari, Maserati, Alfa Romeo Lancia and Iveco. Not that much in comparison.
[Edited on 07-01-2009 by BluKoo]
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Ojc
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I'm sure GM have their fingers in Fiat's pie these days as well. Hence the Corsa sharing the Puntos chassis or vice versa, lots of Alfas have Vauxhall engines as well.
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Robbo
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VW has a majority stake in Scania... Porsche indirecrtly kind of owns but not really... they are required to launch a takeover bid but are doign so on unfavouirable terms as thye dont want to own it
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Robbo
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
I'm sure GM have their fingers in Fiat's pie these days as well. Hence the Corsa sharing the Puntos chassis or vice versa, lots of Alfas have Vauxhall engines as well.
nope, just an agreement between the 2
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Ojc
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Oh I see, I knew they were in cahoots somewhere or other.
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Robbo
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Yarp, Ford own a lot of brands these days too altho they are divetsign of some (like LR, Jag and maybe Volvo cars too)
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BluKoo
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Didn't Ford sell Jag to Tata?
[Edited on 07-01-2009 by BluKoo]
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Robbo
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Yep and LR
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Daimo B
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Well GM own Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Daewoo, GMC, Holden, Hummer, Opel, Pontiac, Saab, Saturn, Vauxhall, and and Wuling
Remember, just because a brand isn't popular in the UK doesn't mean it isn't popular abroad. America its the worlds main market, and they don't get Astras, Skodas, Seats etc. Dewoo's and Chevvys are HUGE in the asian countries.
Most manufactures are owned by another make.
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Ojc
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Much like CorsaSport is owned by SaxoSportsClub 
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Robbo
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1. Toyota Motor Corporation ( Japan)
Daihatsu * Subsidiary Global, except North America and Australia
Hino * Subsidiary Asia Pacific, Canada, South America
Lexus Division Global, apart from South America with the exception of Chile and Argentina.
Scion Division United States, Canada
Toyota Division Global
2. General Motors Corporation ( United States)
Buick Division United States, Canada, China, Israel, Taiwan
Cadillac Division Global
Chevrolet Division Global, with the exception of Australia
Daewoo Subsidiary Asia, Europe, South America, South Africa
GMC Division North America, Middle East
Holden Subsidiary Australia, New Zealand, Middle East
Hummer Division Global
Opel Division Continental Europe, Ireland, South Africa, Japan
Pontiac Division United States and Canada
Saab Subsidiary Global
Saturn Division United States, Canada, Japan, Republic of China
Vauxhall Subsidiary United Kingdom
3. Porsche Automobil Holding ( Germany)
Audi Subsidiary Global
Bentley Subsidiary Global
Bugatti Subsidiary Global
Lamborghini Subsidiary Global
Porsche Subsidiary Global
Scania Subsidiary Global
SEAT Subsidiary Europe, Latin America, South Africa
koda Subsidiary Global, except North America
Volkswagen Subsidiary Global
4. Ford Motor Company ( United States)
Ford Division Global **
Lincoln Division United States, Canada, Middle East
Mercury Division United States, Canada, Middle East
Mazda DivisionCite error: Closing </ref> missing for <ref> tag Global
18. AvtoVAZ ( Russia)
Lada Division Russia, Finland, Sweden, Europe
VAZ Division Russia, Eastern Europe
19. First Automobile Works ( People's Republic of China)
Besturn Division China
Hongqi Division China
Huali Subsidiary China
Xiali Subsidiary China
20. Tata Motors Limited ( India)
Hispano Subsidiary Europe
Jaguar Subsidiary Global
Land Rover Subsidiary Global
Tata Division India, South Africa
Tata Daewoo Subsidiary South Korea
21. Fuji Heavy Industries ( Japan)
Subaru Division Global
22. Chang'an Motors ( People's Republic of China)
Chana Division China, South Africa
23. Isuzu Motors ( Japan)
Isuzu Division Global except North America
24. Beijing Automotive Industry Holding Corporation ( People's Republic of China)
BAW Subsidiary China
25. Dongfeng Motor Corporation ( People's Republic of China)
Dongfeng Division China
26. Chery Automobile ( People's Republic of China)
Chery Division China, South Africa, Southeast Asia except Thailand
27. Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation ( People's Republic of China)
MG Subsidiary UK
Roewe Division China
SsangYong Subsidiary South Korea, South Africa, Europe, Australia
28. Brilliance China Automotive Holdings ( People's Republic of China)
Brilliance Division China
Jinbei Subsidiary China
29. GAZ ( Russia)
GAZ Division Russia
LDV Subsidiary Europe
LiAZ Subsidiary Russia
30. Volvo Group ( Sweden)
Mack Subsidiary Global
Renault (trucks) Subsidiary Global
Nissan Diesel Subsidiary Global
Volvo (trucks) Division Global
31. Harbin Hafei Automobile Industry Group ( People's Republic of China)
Hafei Division China
32. Geely Automobile ( People's Republic of China)
Geely Division China
Maple Subsidiary China
33. Anhui Jianghuai Automobile ( People's Republic of China)
JAC Division China
34. Mahindra & Mahindra Limited ( India)
Mahindra Division India, South Africa
35. Paccar Inc ( United States)
DAF Subsidiary Global except United States and Canada
Kenworth Division North America
Leyland Subsidiary Europe
Peterbilt Division North America
36. Great Wall Motor ( People's Republic of China)
Great Wall Division China, South Africa
37. Jiangxi Changhe ( People's Republic of China)
Changhe Division China
38. BYD Auto ( People's Republic of China)
BYD Division China
39. China National Heavy Duty Truck Group ( People's Republic of China)
CNHTC Division China
40. MAN AG ( Germany)
MAN Division Europe
41. Navistar International Corporation ( United States)
International Division Global
IC Division Global
42. Fujian Motor Industry Group ( People's Republic of China)
Fujian Division China
43. UAZ ( Russia)
UAZ Division Russia
Notes
* The OICA statistics rank the Toyota subsidiary companies Daihatsu and Hino separately, and Porsche separately from the Volkswagen Group; in this table they are included with Toyota and Porsche respectively.
** "Global" may be misleading; Ford has traditionally maintained largely distinct ranges under the Ford marque in the United States, United Kingdom, and mainland Europe, but these distinctions are fading and have gone altogether within Europe (including the UK).
[edit] Company relationships
It is not uncommon for automobile manufacturers to hold stakes in other automobile manufacturers. These ownerships can be explored under the detail for the individual companies.
Notable current relationships include:
The Renault-Nissan alliance involves two global companies linked by cross-shareholding, with Renault holding 44.3% of Nissan shares, and Nissan holding 15% of (non-voting) Renault shares.
Porsche Automobil Holding SE announced on January 6, 2009 that its stake in Volkswagen now exceeds 50%, making Volkswagen Group (and its associated marques) its subsidiary.[17]
The Volkswagen Group holds a 37.73% stake in Scania (68.6% voting rights).
Ford holds a 33.4% stake in Mazda.[18] and an 8.3% share in Aston Martin. Ford is currently in the process of selling off 20% of its ownership in Mazda, 6.9% of which will be sold back to Mazda. [1]
Hyundai Motor Co. holds a 38.67% stake in Kia Motors.[19]
Daimler AG holds a 19.9% stake in Chrysler Holding LLC.[20]
General Motors still holds a 3% stake in Suzuki. GM is currently in the process of selling the 3% stake back to Suzuki for $230 million [2]. Suzuki is also partner with GM in GMDAT and CAMI.[21]
Renault holds 20.5% of the voting stakes in Volvo Group.
Toyota holds a 51% stake in Daihatsu hence having a controlling interest in the company, and 16.5% in Fuji Heavy Industries, parent company of Subaru.[22]
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Ojc
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GM has a stake in Suzuki but selling it, why on earth would you have a 3% stake in Suzuki in the first place? Pointless.
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Robbo
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Happens a lot but as you say, completely pointless.
The only thing I think is missing on there is that Im pretty sure Ford owns Volvo Cars (Volvo Group doesn't, only trucks)
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Daimo B
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quote:
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GM has a stake in Suzuki but selling it, why on earth would you have a 3% stake in Suzuki in the first place? Pointless.
Suzuki don't make money???????
Im sure they are quite successful in motor cycle racing.
Not to mention all the watercraft engines and other products.....
Just because they don't make many cars, doesn't mean its a small company.
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Ben G
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Originally posted by Robbo
Happens a lot but as you say, completely pointless.
The only thing I think is missing on there is that Im pretty sure Ford owns Volvo Cars (Volvo Group doesn't, only trucks)
yeah ford own volvo.
sold a huge percentage of our stake in mazda for nigh on £500 million last year.
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Ojc
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Needed money for more orange paint Ben?
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IvIarkgraham
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they have astras in america
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John
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They also have focus's 
And loads of other cars.
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Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by IvIarkgraham
they have astras in america
Saturns in America. Americans don't get it though, simple in the head you see. It doesn't have wood panels a column shifter and a live rear axle.
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