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joes_1.4_16v_sport

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8th Dec 08 at 23:25

I know its on a scooby but OOOOOOOOO the noise.

Whining sounds like my normal box t.b.h.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BxGda3Ya7II&feature=related

james_suffolk1

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8th Dec 08 at 23:45

oooooooooo sounds awsome

joes_1.4_16v_sport

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8th Dec 08 at 23:52

Quite quick 1/2/3/ isnt she...

Wrighty

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8th Dec 08 at 23:55

fs there are better videos then that

all i hear is distortion

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nRHrofR3PVE&feature=related

joes_1.4_16v_sport

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9th Dec 08 at 00:06

Iwasnt looking for the best 1...

I typed in dogbox + there it was.

God

joes_1.4_16v_sport

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9th Dec 08 at 00:10

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dmJH84FnQa8&feature=related

Hahaha... How fast?

SXI - Matt

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9th Dec 08 at 09:04

How loud lol, some one explain a straight cut dog box to me?

[Edited on 09-12-2008 by SXI - Matt]

Wrighty

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9th Dec 08 at 09:05

quote:
Originally posted by SXI - Matt
How loud lol, some one explain a straight cut dog box to me?

[Edited on 09-12-2008 by SXI - Matt]

normal gearbox gears are cut at like a 15 degree angle for noise reduction and as theyre cut like that they sap power

sraight gears are straight cut, noiser but dont sap power

Tomnova16

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9th Dec 08 at 09:19

holy shite, all those other drivers must be pissed off to be beaten by an old e36 2.0l

http://www.lemass.co.uk/ for all your automotive/bodyshop needs
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SXI - Matt

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9th Dec 08 at 09:32

What's a dog box then? Just another name for straight cut gears?

joes_1.4_16v_sport

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9th Dec 08 at 10:13

something to do with syncromesh. Or the lack of it.

Having said that- I dont know what that is.

lmao

steddy-eddie

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9th Dec 08 at 10:35

what the hell is the spoiler on that bmw compact

dannymccann

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9th Dec 08 at 10:37

quote:
Originally posted by joes_1.4_16v_sport
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dmJH84FnQa8&feature=related

Hahaha... How fast?

Its like hes on rails round the corners and going round people

Immense driving, but surely you would tire of the constant high pitched whining???

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9th Dec 08 at 10:43

quote:
Originally posted by SXI - Matt
What's a dog box then? Just another name for straight cut gears?

essentially yes, its a straight cut teeth, but uses a seperate reciver and gear, where all syncros to my knowledge use a synchronizer which drives the gear to the speed of the output shaft, which is why if you change to fast you get a "crunch" as the gear speed isnt matched to the output shaft speed

adz_gsi

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9th Dec 08 at 12:15

fuk that bm is quick and loud

N3CRO

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9th Dec 08 at 12:33

That noise would get on my tits real quick.

sand-eel

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9th Dec 08 at 13:20

quote:
Originally posted by SXI - Matt
What's a dog box then? Just another name for straight cut gears?

you can have a syncro or dog straight cut box, the syncro one still has syncromesh but has straight cut gears for less transmission losses it takes longer to change gear as you it still needs to match the shaft speeds. the dog box has things called DOGS usually about 5-6 of them, they are just big lumps of metal that engage into slots when you change gear, you can't change slowly with them as the dogs won't go into the slots, so you have to ram them in. this obviously wears the dogs very fast, only a few thousand miles prob not even that much TBH, a defo no no for a road car.

geth_16vsport

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9th Dec 08 at 13:50

quote:
Originally posted by joes_1.4_16v_sport
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dmJH84FnQa8&feature=related

Hahaha... How fast?

looks like a xbox game the way hes just flying the the pack
gd vid

markx14xe

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9th Dec 08 at 15:28

the gearbox sounds like its in reverse !!!

SXI - Matt

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9th Dec 08 at 17:19

quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel

quote:
Originally posted by SXI - Matt
What's a dog box then? Just another name for straight cut gears?

you can have a syncro or dog straight cut box, the syncro one still has syncromesh but has straight cut gears for less transmission losses it takes longer to change gear as you it still needs to match the shaft speeds. the dog box has things called DOGS usually about 5-6 of them, they are just big lumps of metal that engage into slots when you change gear, you can't change slowly with them as the dogs won't go into the slots, so you have to ram them in. this obviously wears the dogs very fast, only a few thousand miles prob not even that much TBH, a defo no no for a road car.

Ah makes sense now

cheers

lil_hobbo

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9th Dec 08 at 17:30

i wont one on the corsa

haha

Daimo B

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9th Dec 08 at 17:49

quote:
Originally posted by dannymccann

Its like hes on rails round the corners and going round people Immense driving, but surely you would tire of the constant high pitched whining???

The difference between normal people who have Race cars (Dutch SCC is open to people with a racing license) that are prepared well, and those who turn up jsut driving as hard as they can. Also the difference between a pro (who can use these setup) and a normal guy having his days racing.

End of the 1st lap, note that the BMW isn't THAT much faster on teh straights, and thats still a tail ender car.....

Good example of a well setup race car and its advantages, oh and the driver..

aim1

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9th Dec 08 at 22:50

quote:
Originally posted by markx14xe
the gearbox sounds like its in reverse !!!

Due to reverse gear being straight cut iirc

Butler

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10th Dec 08 at 00:40

Guy round my way has a mini van with a turbo technics engine and jack knight straight cut box, I heard him drive past one day, the gearbox is actually soooo loud, so much louder than that impreza vid

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