solly
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Registered: 28th Jan 08
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Right,
Stavs has pointed me in ur direction as im getting no help on corsa-c 
I have a 1.8 corsa, and im having a slight problem with it, when you boot it you get a bit a white smoke out of the exhaust, and it is going through a fair amount of oil, it was going through a hell of a lot (about a litre 2 every 3 tanks of fuel!) and now its calmed down alot and dont seem to be putting as much in!, now i do have some mods, including air filter, full exhaust including manifold, and a remap,
Now the problem i have norrowed down to 2 or 3 things from different conversations with different people,
1. Valve Stem Seals
2. Valve Guides
3. Piston Rings
Now iv had a compression test done and he was confident it wasnt the rings, but after speaking to my mechanic friend today, he said that it could be wrong as it could be worn right across all 4 pistons, meaning the test would read correct and no loss of pressure? and that the guy that does all the work on the engines in his garage says that the stem seals and guides rarely go on these engines and he rekons it will be the rings!
Now when i spoke to another reputable garage he says that the 1.8 engines are prone to the guides breaking and its usually them! and that it would be blue smoke out of the back if it was the rings
Then another person i have spoke to says that 99% of the time if its white smoke out the back its either the head gasket or seals! and that it will more than likely be the remap as its probably overfueling slightly
Now its going for its MOT on saturday, and iv been quoted £230 to do the head gasket, seals and guides, and i am planning on spending £2k at regal getting an inlet manifold and cams and pullets and another remap done on it, what do you guys rekon it is?
Now having the rings done is like £500-£1000! it would be cheaper to get a new engine at like £400 and to be honest i cant be arsed with the hassle, id rather split it and flog it (trade it in and deny all knowledge of the problem )
i have three options
1. MOT and sell it and buy a cheap derv(dont want to do that as i love it! but its the most cost effective!)
2. MOT and Try fixing the head gasket etc. see if that fixes it if it doesnt sell it and move on.
3. MOT it, fix it, and spend 2k at regal, and just hope that it sorts it out and that its not the piston rings
Sorry for the essay
and some please help me out!
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Ian
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Registered: 28th Aug 99
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First thing is to get the map back to standard so you can rule that out, total cost nothing.
Whoever does this job should be able to save the modded image so you can still put that back on at a later date.
I had similar symptoms on a C16XE, was a dislodged valve stem seal.
If you're not down on power I would rule out HG although you'll get one anyway if you do the seals and guides.
Whatever you do, don't spend money on mods until this is fixed.
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solly
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Cheers for the advice, my only problem is that the guy who did the remap is in birmingham 
also wont that make it worse if i have the full system and filter on it?
iv been quoted £230 to do the head gasket and seals and that, so i duno wether or not just to get that done, and then see from there?
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SAL
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Stavs 
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Nick-S
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i thought if it was stem seals it would only smoke on start up? 
[Edited on 05-02-2008 by GSi_16v]
[Edited on 05-02-2008 by Ian]
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solly
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aint a clue mate, hence why im asking you guys
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Ian
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No stem seal will smoke whenever there is oil present, mine did it cold or warm, a lot moreso on load. ie. boot it, you would get a puff.
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Nick-S
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oh rite, my old blue C had stem seal problems and only somked on start up and first min or so untill it had burned off 
[Edited on 05-02-2008 by GSi_16v]
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Ian
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With wear yes, mine was dislodged.
Not sure how many miles are on this engine?
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Nick-S
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you sure just with wear, my engine had only about 28k on when it started, it was kind of interminten and dint do it all the time
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solly
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its got just short of 70k on it, and well its been driven pretty hard for 35k of it
fingers crossed its a disloged one like you had, save me a shit load of money
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Dave A
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as I said on Corsa-c, get a real compression test done i.e a leakdown compression test. It will show where the leakage is rather than just telling you there is a leakage.
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solly
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Update guys -
put the standard map back on it, smoke stopped 
not to everyone do not use lee at v-tune the pikey bastard,
leaving the standard map on till friday next week and then get regal to sort it, ill get some pics up of the rolling road print out and of the car (hopefully up at 180+ bhp )
cheers for all the advice and help though guys 
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SAL
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BTW we dont belive regal's RR printout's on here, best get on the SE rolling road day and get a real figure
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Dave A
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air filter, exhaust and remap wont get anywhere near 180.
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