corsasport.co.uk
 

Corsa Sport » Message Board » Off Day » A problem shared is a problem halved....


New Topic

New Poll
  Subscribe | Add to Favourites

You are not logged in and may not post or reply to messages. Please log in or create a new account or mail us about fixing an existing one - register@corsasport.co.uk

There are also many more features available when you are logged in such as private messages, buddy list, location services, post search and more.


Author A problem shared is a problem halved....
Dom
Member

Registered: 13th Sep 03
User status: Offline
   14th Aug 07 at 11:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Heres my dilemma - i'm planning to take a year out from uni to do a placement (in the industry) year. Now i've been offered a job at a school as a technician. Now the dilemma is, is that i have to decide today whether im taking the position but there are a lot of pros and cons...

Pros -
The salary is pretty good
It would be an easy year, nothing too challenging
Could be a bit of a laugh with the teachers, as everyone seems to be pretty sound etc
Would give me some experience with kids etc, if i wanted to become a teacher

Cons -
It's not in the industry
Because of the above, i don't feel i would gain anything from the year, apart from paying off my debts - and therefore, it could be a wasted year
It'd be mostly me teaching the staff/students how to use x and y piece of gear and again, i would gain little knowledge.

Now the gamble part is that i could turn the position down and try and get another job in the next five weeks. It would be tight and if was offered somewhere else it would be on a lot less money (probably unpaid) and it would probably be up north somewhere so i would have to get accommodation (so more debt etc).
However, i really need to take placement, as it's worth 15% of my degree and i could then potentially get a first or atleast a high 2:1. Without doing placement, a 2:1 would be the most.

So as you can see, im in a bit of a pickle especially as it could change my life

So what do i do?
Cosmo
Member

Registered: 29th Mar 01
Location: Im the real one!
User status: Offline
14th Aug 07 at 11:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What do you think you would do after the degree - go into teaching or something more 'in the industry'?
antscorsa
Member

Registered: 11th Aug 02
Location: london
User status: Offline
14th Aug 07 at 11:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

any experience is priceless!!!
Cosmo
Member

Registered: 29th Mar 01
Location: Im the real one!
User status: Offline
14th Aug 07 at 11:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by antscorsa
any experience is priceless!!!


not really, having experience in a teaching environment when he wants to go into something totally unrelated isnt going to help much at all.
Dom
Member

Registered: 13th Sep 03
User status: Offline
14th Aug 07 at 11:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
What do you think you would do after the degree - go into teaching or something more 'in the industry'?


teaching is last resort really, want to go in for sound engineering/production for film and tv, been looking at doing a masters down in london.

thing is though, my final year is pretty bollocks and my head of course is about as useful as a chocolate teapot, so im also thinking whether i should get my degree over and done with and get out of there, or delay it a year with placement and come out with a higher grade.....
antscorsa
Member

Registered: 11th Aug 02
Location: london
User status: Offline
14th Aug 07 at 11:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yea but then if he hasnt got anything else then jsut say yes.
could always come up with an excuse and get out of it if you get soemthing better!
fake your death maybe
Eck
Premium Member

Avatar

Registered: 17th Apr 06
Location: Lundin Links, Fife
User status: Offline
14th Aug 07 at 11:32   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by antscorsa
any experience is priceless!!!


Exactly. It's worth 15% of your grade, you can pay off your debts, and you won't exactly be losing any skills, so I personally think you should take the job

[Edited on 14-08-2007 by Eckmcmann]
antscorsa
Member

Registered: 11th Aug 02
Location: london
User status: Offline
14th Aug 07 at 11:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

do the placement!!!!!!
its soo worthwhile! and looks great on a c.v, its what companies look for more than anything.
Cosmo
Member

Registered: 29th Mar 01
Location: Im the real one!
User status: Offline
14th Aug 07 at 11:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If its toitally unrelated to what you want to do then it may be pointless delaying your degree then. I mean saying you've experience working in a school to a sound engineering/production firm isnt going to really seperate you much from someone else going for the job.
Cosmo
Member

Registered: 29th Mar 01
Location: Im the real one!
User status: Offline
14th Aug 07 at 11:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by antscorsa
its soo worthwhile! and looks great on a c.v, its what companies look for more than anything.


agreed....when its related to the job your going for!
Dom
Member

Registered: 13th Sep 03
User status: Offline
14th Aug 07 at 11:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by antscorsa
do the placement!!!!!!
its soo worthwhile! and looks great on a c.v, its what companies look for more than anything.


i agree experience is priceless, but having 'i was a technician at X school' doesn't really help you to gain a job in the sound industry. Who you know and knowledge is the key with the music/film/tv industry and i certainly wouldn't be gaining knowledge out of this placement nor the potentional to get to know people.

However, if i say no then i would have to find somewhere else (unlikely) and if i dont, then it would be onto my final year and come out with a not too hot degree.

edit - it's currently a 2 to 1 in favour of doing the placement at this school...hmmmm
the other thing is that im getting old, im 22 this year, i'll be 23/24 when i grad and if plan to do a masters i'll be 26 - most people are in full time employment by then

[Edited on 14-08-2007 by Dom]
antscorsa
Member

Registered: 11th Aug 02
Location: london
User status: Offline
14th Aug 07 at 11:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

but what im saying is, the expereince of being a teacher would look good on a c.v, it shows u can talk to people, show them how to use the stuff, shows you take responsability and can manage a high end role!!
communicating skills etc,
it all helps, and well if its that or not doing a year out then id take it!!
Cosmo
Member

Registered: 29th Mar 01
Location: Im the real one!
User status: Offline
14th Aug 07 at 11:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If your really aiming for a first, and having a year out is the only way, then accept (or delay) the teaching job for now and keep looking for one more related.

If you dont find one then atleast you'll pay off a big chunk of your debts, have some experience in the workplace and not be any further behind in 2 years time when your looking for a job but will have a first under your belt.

If you do find one then can find an excuse for the teachine job and gain the experience you want, in the field you want, and come out with a degree and contacts in the end.
Eck
Premium Member

Avatar

Registered: 17th Apr 06
Location: Lundin Links, Fife
User status: Offline
14th Aug 07 at 11:41   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Dom
quote:
Originally posted by antscorsa
do the placement!!!!!!
its soo worthwhile! and looks great on a c.v, its what companies look for more than anything.


i agree experience is priceless, but having 'i was a technician at X school' doesn't really help you to gain a job in the sound industry. Who you know and knowledge is the key with the music/film/tv industry and i certainly wouldn't be gaining knowledge out of this placement nor the potentional to get to know people.

However, if i say no then i would have to find somewhere else (unlikely) and if i dont, then it would be onto my final year and come out with a not too hot degree.

edit - it's currently a 2 to 1 in favour of doing the placement at this school...hmmmm
the other thing is that im getting old, im 22 this year, i'll be 23/24 when i grad and if plan to do a masters i'll be 26 - most people are in full time employment by then

[Edited on 14-08-2007 by Dom]


That alone would settle it for me
Dom
Member

Registered: 13th Sep 03
User status: Offline
14th Aug 07 at 11:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i know what you're getting at ant, but it isn't a teaching position, its to be a technician. So i would help the music teachers with there class's and help the students in using X equipment, but the fact that i have better equipment sitting at home and i could do everything they asked blind folded......i dont think i would gain anything knowledge wise.

Perhapps it would improve on people skills.....
antscorsa
Member

Registered: 11th Aug 02
Location: london
User status: Offline
14th Aug 07 at 11:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well if you can delay then do it!!
try and find something else asap!!

if not take it just to gain that better degree adn to pay off your debts
Dom
Member

Registered: 13th Sep 03
User status: Offline
14th Aug 07 at 11:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
If your really aiming for a first, and having a year out is the only way, then accept (or delay) the teaching job for now and keep looking for one more related.

If you dont find one then atleast you'll pay off a big chunk of your debts, have some experience in the workplace and not be any further behind in 2 years time when your looking for a job but will have a first under your belt.

If you do find one then can find an excuse for the teachine job and gain the experience you want, in the field you want, and come out with a degree and contacts in the end.


fact is, i've been stringing the company along for the last 2 weeks whilst i've had interviews at other places. Unfortunately i haven't made the cut, so this is last resort time and i really cant string the school along much longer.....

and i agree with eck aswell, the fact that i have a good chance of coming out with a better degree is a good thing.....
Cosmo
Member

Registered: 29th Mar 01
Location: Im the real one!
User status: Offline
14th Aug 07 at 11:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

take the teaching job then, no reason not to carry on looking for another job though, and if one comes along can just tell the school youve had a change of circumstance and cant start with them, no biggy!
antscorsa
Member

Registered: 11th Aug 02
Location: london
User status: Offline
14th Aug 07 at 11:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yea exactly im sure if its only a technician job they can find some one to cover, or just try and do it for a shorter period and look for another opportunity to do afterwards

 
New Topic

New Poll

Corsa Sport » Message Board » Off Day » A problem shared is a problem halved.... 24 database queries in 0.0219660 seconds