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Steve
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27th Mar 07 at 17:22   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Anyone know the length of great britain, top to bottom in miles or km? as the crow flies.

Google was unsuccessful
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not very accurate and depending on which points you measure from and to it seems to be around 570miles
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon
it seems to be around 570miles


Tad conservative

Id plump for 874 miles
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon
not very accurate and depending on which points you measure from and to it seems to be around 570miles







try twice that matey

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ITS OK CHEERS SORTED
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well... what is the actual length steve? you have got me and probably some others curious
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27th Mar 07 at 17:52   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

about 750 as the crow flies, my scale also reflects this
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28th Mar 07 at 15:23   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/distance.php

From: TR12
To: KW1

Approximately: 945 km or 605 miles

Best thing to calibrate that map is to have postcodes on the coast and plot them while you're testing.

You could even cut out the member table all together and just plot the entire contents of your postcode table, just disable the image map bits first
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Lizards point to john o'groat is correct
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/distance.php

From: TR12
To: KW1

Approximately: 945 km or 605 miles

Best thing to calibrate that map is to have postcodes on the coast and plot them while you're testing.

You could even cut out the member table all together and just plot the entire contents of your postcode table, just disable the image map bits first


tis indeed what im doing

john o groats now plots spot on as does penzance same goes for eastern and western coast points
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That assumes of course that your map is flattened correctly in line with your data and its also rotated the same. I had a nightmare with mine so much so I was tempted to use vector data for the coastline. Looks rubbish but at least its accurate.
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how do you mean? all the dots seem to be accurate when i test various postcodes
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Yeah its close enough but there is an element of error, just look at the variation here

http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=uk%20map

liv.ac.uk one is clearly rotated right a bit, jkmead.wordpress is stretched etc.
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ahh i see, yes, I had to convert all the long/lat values into non spherical flat data, had to use some complicated trigonometry formula with sines and cosines

bought back my memories of GCSE maths tbh

[Edited on 28-03-2007 by Steve]
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28th Mar 07 at 17:29   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I compare all my location by searching them up on multimap for comparison, do you think multimap is a good enough reference for that?
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Do you mean from eg. lands end to johnogrotes (sp) or north south?
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I gave up and just found data with northings and eastings, far easier.

You still got the formula handy? I couldn't find anything useful particularly for converting the entire data set.
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quote:
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I compare all my location by searching them up on multimap for comparison, do you think multimap is a good enough reference for that?
More than likely at that scale.
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28th Mar 07 at 17:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

580miles north - south.

Google earth and ruler.
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java script

code:
LatLong.prototype.LatLongToOSGrid = function() {
var a = 6377563.396, b = 6356256.910; // Airy 1830 major & minor semi-axes
var F0 = 0.9996012717; // NatGrid scale factor on central meridian
var lat0 = 49*Math.PI/180, lon0 = -2*Math.PI/180; // NatGrid true origin
var N0 = -100000, E0 = 400000; // northing & easting of true origin, metres

var e2 = 1 - (b*b)/(a*a); // eccentricity squared
var n = (a-b)/(a+b), n2 = n*n, n3 = n*n*n;

var lat = this.lat;
var cosLat = Math.cos(lat), sinLat = Math.sin(lat);
var nu = a*F0/Math.sqrt(1-e2*sinLat*sinLat); // transverse radius of curvature
var rho = a*F0*(1-e2)/Math.pow(1-e2*sinLat*sinLat, 1.5); // meridional radius of curvature
var eta2 = nu/rho-1;


var Ma = (1 + n + (5/4)*n2 + (5/4)*n3) * (lat-lat0);
var Mb = (3*n + 3*n*n + (21/8)*n3) * Math.sin(lat-lat0) * Math.cos(lat+lat0);
var Mc = ((15/8)*n2 + (15/8)*n3) * Math.sin(2*(lat-lat0)) * Math.cos(2*(lat+lat0));
var Md = (35/24)*n3 * Math.sin(3*(lat-lat0)) * Math.cos(3*(lat+lat0));
var M = b * F0 * (Ma - Mb + Mc - Md); // meridional arc

var cos3lat = cosLat*cosLat*cosLat;
var cos5lat = cos3lat*cosLat*cosLat;
var tan2lat = Math.tan(lat)*Math.tan(lat);
var tan4lat = tan2lat*tan2lat;

var I = M + N0;
var II = (nu/2)*sinLat*cosLat;
var III = (nu/24)*sinLat*cos3lat*(5-tan2lat+9*eta2);
var IIIA = (nu/720)*sinLat*cos5lat*(61-58*tan2lat+tan4lat);
var IV = nu*cosLat;
var V = (nu/6)*cos3lat*(nu/rho-tan2lat);
var VI = (nu/120) * cos5lat * (5 - 18*tan2lat + tan4lat + 14*eta2 - 58*tan2lat*eta2);

var dLon = this.lon-lon0;
var dLon2 = dLon*dLon, dLon3 = dLon2*dLon, dLon4 = dLon3*dLon, dLon5 = dLon4*dLon, dLon6 = dLon5*dLon;

var grid = new Object();
grid.N = I + II*dLon2 + III*dLon4 + IIIA*dLon6;
grid.E = E0 + IV*dLon + V*dLon3 + VI*dLon5;

return LatLong.gridrefNumToLet(grid.E, grid.N, 8);
}

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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
bought back my memories of GCSE maths


What is this GCSE you speak of?
Ian
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How does it compare to the 2001 census stuff?

AB10 1FG 394206 0806562
AB10 1JZ 394070 0806290
AB10 1QH 393370 0806190
AB10 1QL 393290 0806170
AB10 1RD 393779 0806097
AB10 1RN 393620 0806270
AB10 1RQ 393501 0806251
AB10 1RX 393594 0806180
AB10 1SB 393481 0805947
AB10 1SE 393345 0806069

[Edited on 28-03-2007 by Ian]
Steve
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pretty much the same, in fact iirc the stuff i have is also the 2001 stuff
thats ab10 btw i dont have ab10 1

[Edited on 28-03-2007 by Steve]

 
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