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daz 16v
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29th Aug 06 at 20:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Asking for a mate, he wants to know where he can get a full setup with ecu and loom? and how much fitted? and last of all what bhp increase will he get? thanks
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29th Aug 06 at 20:13   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
SBD do a kit called the TP164, which gives you 164bhp on a C16XE GSi.

not sure about the prices, but SBD aren't cheap.
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29th Aug 06 at 20:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
bhp depends on cam spec/rev limit etc... not just x and y.

160+ is likely on a basic mild setup though.
200+ on a bonkers 9000rpm build.

SBD can do complete kits, but are quite costly.
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budget 3k.... that should see you built up, mapped etc
daz 16v
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have you got any contact details for SBD?
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http://www.sbdev.co.uk

search on here, there is a bundle of info to read
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if you are spending that much on getting air into the engine then you should also consider spending a bit on an exhaust manifold and system
daz 16v
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thanks! i heard Dave A does tb's setups is it true and if it is, is it worth u2u him about them?
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SBD are stupidly expensive!

I can do a full set fitted, mapped and better than the SBD kit for around £2500.

dont believe the 164bhp claim either. most see 140-150 bhp, a thread on migweb a while back about sbd's power claims, its hilarious.
daz 16v
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so what will he need to get around 180 bhp, head work, cams, 4 brach etc??
AK
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most folk were prob still using standard exhaust manifolds though. They clearly state the power was made using bla bla bla
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a lot

Milled pistons or new psitons
metal headgasket
uprated valve springs/caps/seats
280'ish degree cams
ECU
verniers
TB's
ARP rob bolts
alu rollers
TB's
Fuel Reg

most of that can be bought in SBD kit though
Dave A
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quote:
Originally posted by daz 1.2
so what will he need to get around 180 bhp, head work, cams, 4 brach etc??


my spec is:

X16XE with 8000rpm rev limit
Omex 500 management
Omex tps, cts, ats and crank sensor
Home made engine loom
Webber Alpha wide band lambda
Novatech 40mm tapered throttle bodies
Jenvey 120mm trumpets
Speedex 30 degree inlet manifold
Ported and polished head skimmed twice to raise compression
Kerr Nelson 10mm ignition leads
C20XE Blue Injectors
Webber Alpha 3 bar Fuel pressure regulator
Ramair Filter
Egr and Sai removed
Schrick 264 cams
Kent vernier pulleys
Janspeed 4 branch manifold
Janspeed exhaust
Piper de-cat
SBD Cam belt and steel rollers
ARP conrod bolts
Sachs clutch
Quickshift linkage
Roose motorsport coolant hoses

and I got 180 bhp and 130ish ft/lb of torque.
daz 16v
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29th Aug 06 at 21:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
thanks dave and ak for help. dave may get back to you about the setup.
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I just got mine mapped 140bhp on a 16 16v with jenvey throttle bodies, sbd exhaust with a full 2.5" system on emerald
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140-150 is what would be expected from an exhaust and tb's on a standard engine.

whats the rev limit stu?

(and any more progress with the cheque? )
DaNnY_LaD
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Was a good read this..

I wouldnt mind doin this to my Xe Sometime next year but i wonder if its more of a Ball arch than doin it to a 1.6
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exactly the same work involved with any 4 cylinder engine really.
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£2500 all in for a drive in drive out conversion at jamsport.

not to shabby really
Iain M
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30th Aug 06 at 17:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
XE it, its the future!!!!!
daz 16v
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yeah but both me and him want to be different theres couple of 2 litre's in wigan and i dont think that any corsa are on tb's

 
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