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namkeaps

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19th Jul 06 at 14:05

Corsa_Carl

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19th Jul 06 at 14:06

its just right

Planty02

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19th Jul 06 at 14:07

I wouldnt go any lower mate - you might start having problems with catching sump etc

boyracer2002

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19th Jul 06 at 14:07

i thought it would be tucking more tyre than that tbh when i saw the sump (you must have big hands)

looks well

a_j_mair

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19th Jul 06 at 14:08

i wouldnt personally
my front cross member thing behind the bumper sat about 100mm tops off the road, was really a bit low TBH fucked the handling and took a couple chunks out the sump

namkeaps

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19th Jul 06 at 14:10

be interesting when it comes to driving it lol

its only on -40mm nova gmax springs and shocks and an xe under the bonnet

Jake

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19th Jul 06 at 14:16

i expect it handles like a noddy car with that set up.

namkeaps

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19th Jul 06 at 14:18

i reckon will be pleasently suprised

namkeaps

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19th Jul 06 at 14:20

ppl expect this to handle like shit but because its so low. but it handles rather well

if the shocks are solid and with a low centre of gravity, in theory should handle quite well

a_j_mair

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19th Jul 06 at 14:26

lowering the car that much fucks up all the geometry is the main problem

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19th Jul 06 at 14:28

in theory

namkeaps

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19th Jul 06 at 14:29

be reet lol

Monkey_GSi

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19th Jul 06 at 15:34

you can go lower but its up to you

Ste L

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19th Jul 06 at 23:25

quote:
Originally posted by namkeaps
ppl expect this to handle like shit but because its so low. but it handles rather well

if the shocks are solid and with a low centre of gravity, in theory should handle quite well

yep, mine handle's good,

Ian

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20th Jul 06 at 01:05

If the theory includes only your centre of gravity then yeah, it'll be excellent.

If you factor in limited suspension travel, stiff springing, visits to the bump stops occasionally, geometry thats wrong because the its out of tolerance and a lack of real ability to adjust the relative lateral stiffness of each end of the car, then things start to look worse.

Its got enough grip and the weight is forward so you've a fairly light stiff back end, which helps reduce what should be a very understeer tendency. Net effect of that though is they get snappy if you take too much advantage of it.

You're probably right in how it feels, but thats not entirely down to the choice of ride height.

Demo

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20th Jul 06 at 07:26

quote:
Originally posted by AK
in theory

this is what i laughed at too

namkeaps

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20th Jul 06 at 12:33

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
If the theory includes only your centre of gravity then yeah, it'll be excellent.

If you factor in limited suspension travel, stiff springing, visits to the bump stops occasionally, geometry thats wrong because the its out of tolerance and a lack of real ability to adjust the relative lateral stiffness of each end of the car, then things start to look worse.

Its got enough grip and the weight is forward so you've a fairly light stiff back end, which helps reduce what should be a very understeer tendency. Net effect of that though is they get snappy if you take too much advantage of it.

You're probably right in how it feels, but thats not entirely down to the choice of ride height.

very true ...

The problem i can see me having is the weight distribution because my rear is stripped out.

I now have a rear stut brace to stiffen up the back end and for somewhere to put the harnesses to.

When doing the wiring for the loom i may see about re-loacating the battery to the rear. Not really much else i can move to try and spread the weight that is already in the car other than adding more weight to the back?

a_j_mair

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20th Jul 06 at 12:35

get fuel cell in boot

Shane

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20th Jul 06 at 12:37

do it, slam it right on its arse

namkeaps

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20th Jul 06 at 12:37

the fuel tank is already at the rear of the car?

bigrabbelfast

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20th Jul 06 at 12:38

which would defeat the porpose of stipping it in the first place would it not

namkeaps

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20th Jul 06 at 12:55

4 point harnesses are the reason for no rear seats etc

[Edited on 20-07-2006 by namkeaps]

Ian

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20th Jul 06 at 14:11

Tank is in front of the axle so could potentially be further back, but then you've also moved the weight up higher and its a lot of messing for marginal benefit.

If the back is nice and stiff then it'll turn in well but they go snappy, which is OK if you like brown trowsers. Mine Corsa is mega understeery unless you chuck it, at which time you either get it right or need to wind it back to catch it. If it was lower the breakaway would be even less progressive than it currently isn't.

namkeaps

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20th Jul 06 at 14:16

aye. hence why i dont see moving the fuel cell would be beneficial really

will find out soon i hope once its all fitted

dont think the nos will help me much going round bends lol

will see how it goes and potentially invest in some decent suspension

dna23

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20th Jul 06 at 14:21

You shouldn't go lower but you could if you want to

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