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kris_SRI
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25th Jun 06 at 11:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I have a corsa SRi 1993 model, and was doin about 8000 to 9000 revs in first gear and then things started going wrong, i have dropped a valve. i have removed the head, and noticed that one of the followers has snapped, and the valve has fallen apart, can you put these back together easily?
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How did you manage 9000rpm ? Did you stick it in first instead of 3rd ?
Adam_B
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25th Jun 06 at 11:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

8 to 9k in a 1.4 8v, er no.

quote:
Originally posted by Ry_B
How did you manage 9000rpm ? Did you stick it in first instead of 3rd ?


its still got a rev limiter

and i wouldnt put the old stuff back together, get a new one.

[Edited on 25-06-2006 by Adam_B]
Ry_B
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
8 to 9k in a 1.4 8v, er no.

quote:
Originally posted by Ry_B
How did you manage 9000rpm ? Did you stick it in first instead of 3rd ?


its still got a rev limiter

and i wouldnt put the old stuff back together, get a new one.

[Edited on 25-06-2006 by Adam_B]




Rev limiters only work on the upshift, changing down it can't actually cut in can it? Eg 2nd redline change upto 3rd is fine, going from 3rd-1st the engine still revs that high as the limiter doesn't work?

This is what I have read on MANY different car sites
RobHayes
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25th Jun 06 at 12:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

it physically wont go into first gear at anything more than walking pace though. and it wouldnt keep on revving just due to a down shift. it would engine brake like fcuk
Adam_B
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25th Jun 06 at 13:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

what rob said. go and try it Ry_B
Ry_B
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You can get it into first at 15mph, not tried anything higher but assume it still goes in?

And I don't drink and drive
kris_SRI
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oops soz meant 7000 revs, i pulled off in first gear, and was nearly at the end of the road and forgot to change to second, made sum rattling noise then started acting like i had ran out o petrol and cutting out, then it cut out and wouldnt start again, i removed the rocker cover, and one of the valves has fell apart and the followover thingy has snapped, can i just rebuild the valve and put a new followover thingy in and it should run ok? i remoed the oil sump and cant see anything wrong in the bottom end
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25th Jun 06 at 17:19   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

for the record you CAN get it back into first at high speeds. my mate bent his valves when he was canned it all the way through 2nd gear, went to put it into 3rd and rammed it back into 1st, released the clutch and....


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Ry_B
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quote:
Originally posted by Ry_B
You can get it into first at 15mph, not tried anything higher but assume it still goes in?



quote:
Originally posted by Sly_SRi
for the record you CAN get it back into first at high speeds.


ed
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quote:
Originally posted by Ry_B
You can get it into first at 15mph, not tried anything higher but assume it still goes in?

And I don't drink and drive
As per normal, shut up.
RobHayes
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quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
rev limit is an electronic cut die to the rpm signal sent from the coil/crank sensor.


kris_SRI
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25th Jun 06 at 21:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

is this an easy problem to fix? or could i have caused more damage than i think?
Rileysport
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quote:
Originally posted by Sly_SRi
for the record you CAN get it back into first at high speeds. my mate bent his valves when he was canned it all the way through 2nd gear, went to put it into 3rd and rammed it back into 1st, released the clutch and....


Try 4th to first and yes i have had the rpm needle go all the way on a 1.4 8v when missing a gear
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26th Jun 06 at 15:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Chances are if you have damaged the valve then some of it must have fallen into the chamber so you may have some piston/cylinder damage?

Sorry dude!

 
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